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So it turns out AMD lied about the launch MSRP of Vega

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User Info: SnipeStar

SnipeStar
2 months ago#31
Otimus posted...
http://i.imgur.com/if2nXFW.png

God, AMD's marketing continues to be awful. This is the one thing they need to change more than anything, and they've ignored it for nearly a decade.

lmao i found myself looking for the like button
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ajxh
2 months ago#32
it_r_over9000 posted...
Both companies are huge corporations and will do whatever they can get away with to screw people out of their money. AMD would do similar things to what Nvidia/Intel has done if their roles were reversed.

Which is the bottom-line truth. I think the reason this topic exists, however, is because some people around here think AMD is the people's company. The reality is that they would trade positions with Intel or NVIDIA in a heartbeat if they could, you're absolutely right.

Ultimately, AMD's existence is a good thing for all, considering competition and all. But they make it an awful pill to swallow when their most inventive video card in two years belongs in 2016. Don't tell that to the shills, though: @ThePandaForest says that his Vega card "feels" smoother, even if every bit of objective data refutes that, so therefore it's superior.

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captsplatter_1
2 months ago#33
At least their CPUs are solid.
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BrokenMachine85
2 months ago#34
captsplatter_1 posted...
At least their CPUs are solid.


Yeah Ryzen was a game changer.
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User Info: lightningbugx

lightningbugx
2 months ago#35
DarkZV2Beta posted...

lightningbugx posted...
AMD never lied about the MSRP. You know the S stands for "suggested". The retailer can sell it for however much they wish.


Consider reading the article next time.


That is unnecessary. The article is probably using some false accounting details suggesting the retailers are getting a manufacturer rebate from AMD to allow the GPU to be sold at a lower price, when in fact manufacturers don't do that because it ruins the retailers which results in retailers not dealing with their products regardless how popular they may be. It is not profitable to sell something that won't turn a profit for any reason. As such if the costs are too high and AMD desperately wants to stay in the market, AMD would be eating the losses, not trick retailers to eat it instead.
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User Info: DarkZV2Beta

DarkZV2Beta
2 months ago#36
lightningbugx posted...
DarkZV2Beta posted...

lightningbugx posted...
AMD never lied about the MSRP. You know the S stands for "suggested". The retailer can sell it for however much they wish.


Consider reading the article next time.


That is unnecessary. The article is probably using some false accounting details suggesting the retailers are getting a manufacturer rebate from AMD to allow the GPU to be sold at a lower price, when in fact manufacturers don't do that because it ruins the retailers which results in retailers not dealing with their products regardless how popular they may be. It is not profitable to sell something that won't turn a profit for any reason. As such if the costs are too high and AMD desperately wants to stay in the market, AMD would be eating the losses, not trick retailers to eat it instead.

It wouldn't be the first time AMD pulled something like that, actually. From throwing developers under the bus to lying to investors, they're not afraid of doing really stupid s*** for short term profit.
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User Info: lightningbugx

lightningbugx
2 months ago#37
DarkZV2Beta posted...
It wouldn't be the first time AMD pulled something like that, actually. From throwing developers under the bus to lying to investors, they're not afraid of doing really stupid s*** for short term profit.


There is no short term profit in doing something like this. All of this is is just people relieving their stress from being unable to get a product. It happened for Nvidia with GTX 10. It happened for Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft with console releases. History will repeat.

AMD has nothing to do with inflated prices. This is due to limited supplies. They can't make 100,000 video cards in one day. It takes time from making the GPU to shipping to manufacturers who build the video card to shipping to retailers to sell.

The most likely and sensible situation that occurred here is that AMD wanted to curb the aggression from inflated prices due to limited supply versus potential demand. Everyone will be pissed, as has happened in the past. So, AMD offered these special deals with retailers where they charge $50 to the retailer, granting $50 extra revenue from the $100 extra in price, in exchange for offering 2 games and manufacturer rebates on other AMD-based hardware. This will inflate the price to more acceptable Supply-vs-Demand levels, as it will happen, but it offers perks and rewards in exchange, instead of having consumers getting priced gouged for no added value. The analogy here is that AMD is at least trying to pay for dinner before you get screwed.

Overall, no good deed goes unpunished.
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