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DarkZV2Beta
2 months ago#111
Bleu_Skie posted...
slyman19 posted...
Freedom is more important than anything though.

Without safety freedom is worthless.

slyman19 posted...
Words do not have to lead to violence.

It would be nice to live in a world where that never happened. I look around me and see otherwise.

EDIT: and yes, I do live in Virginia.

Without freedom, safety is an illusion.
Those who trade liberty for security will lose both.
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DarkZV2Beta
2 months ago#112
Bleu_Skie posted...
DarkZV2Beta posted...
Edavy89 posted...
tzuyd posted...
Did you see the backlash PDP got for using a bad word? NOBODY IS ALLOWING THINGS THAT ARE (considered) WRONG.


We still have white supremacist rally's here in Virginia. Everyone intelligent knows racial bigotry is wrong. Yet legally we allow it. What delusional hole in your head are you hiding in to think the world isn't f***ing swimming in what is wrong.

Because to disallow it is bigotry, which is wrong.

In theory, sure, but when words lead to violence, the morality of it is less important. When people get hurt or killed over words in basically your own backyard... Nvm, not going to go on that train of thought here.

Freedom and safety is a delicate balance.

People overreacting to words is what kills people. Words are just information. If you can't handle information, well... Why are you even on the internet? Look at all the words! Dangerous thinking!
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tzuyd
2 months ago#113
Spaced92 posted...
If there are no exceptions, free speech just legitimizes hate speech

If there are exceptions, freedom of speech simply doesn't exist.

of what worth is pure malicious intent against minorities to a well functioning democratic society?

That would be for the majorities to democratically decide, not the lone whims of Big Brother.

society needs to protect itself from these types of people or inevitably their message of hate will start to get through

As is evident by Marxists/communists/liberals/anarcho socialists (lol) running campus, law and media over the last three decades. Now every topic has to be turned into a talk about such vanity issues as race or sex. It may be a decade late, but people are starting to wake up to this demented rhetoric and the enemies the leftist activists keep harping on about have finally risen. Now they get to fight against decades of their own creation.

Some people laugh at minority hate groups and focus more on 'moral crusaders' (because

because the moral crusaders are actively growing the minority hate groups. I don't know if you've noticed, but they've become big enough to have their first ever rally just recently.

That literally never happened while people were just laughing at those fools.

Edavy89 posted...
We still have white supremacist rally's here in Virginia.

You mean you NOW have white supremacist rallies. Well done, you've earnt the enemy you've been fighting for. Have at them!

What delusional hole in your head are you hiding in to think the world isn't f***ing swimming in what is wrong.

Oh, I've seen what's been boiling for the last 5 years, when I started paying attention. These issues simply didn't exist a decade ago. Only one side has consistently platformed them and fostered them, and it started on campus (now the entire mainstream media).

slyman19 posted...
The Constitution protects ALL US citizens to say what they want.

I don't like what they say, but I'm sure as hell going to defend their right to say it.

Keyword SAY.

When violence was brought to the discussion back in Feb, it wasn't by the side everybody was laughing at.
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Bleu_Skie
2 months ago#114
Edavy89 posted...
DaedalusEx posted...
Bleu_Skie posted...
In theory, sure, but when words lead to violence, the morality of it is less important.


And how do you plan on stopping words from leading to violence?


I could be wrong, but I believe that was kind of his point.

You werent wrong.

DarkZV2Beta posted...
Without freedom, safety is an illusion.
Those who trade liberty for security will lose both.

Quotes arent a basis of argument.

DarkZV2Beta posted...
People overreacting to words is what kills people. Words are just information. If you can't handle information, well... Why are you even on the internet? Look at all the words! Dangerous thinking!

Your snark is noted lol.

Saying words are just words is logical but not realistic.
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tzuyd
2 months ago#115
Bleu_Skie posted...
Without safety freedom is worthless.

Without freedom safety is slavery.

Bleu_Skie posted...
In theory, sure, but when words lead to violence

That's when it must be stopped. The people ENACTING the violence must be stopped.

The idea that they have only JUST started being stopped 6 months later is horrid.

Bring on Free Speech Week. The protesters of the past have now been classified by HMS as domestic terrorists.

arleas posted...
Instead, they leave it alone and it's only a minor s***storm (with 30% chance of going away entirely as people get bored with it).

A lesson the MSM could sorely learn.

Bleu_Skie posted...
Quotes arent a basis of argument.

The words that constitute the quote are.

Saying words are just words is logical but not realistic.

Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me.

That anyone was raised to believe otherwise constitutes child abuse.
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Bleu_Skie
2 months ago#116
^I'm sure you think you made some great points. (I don't have the patience to reply to all of that. Just assume I disagree and/or smh at most of your logical leaps)
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Perfect Zeratul
2 months ago#117
just put blue on ignore.
God gave man a brain and a ****. Too bad he didn't give us enough blood to use them both @ the same time....

User Info: tzuyd

tzuyd
2 months ago#118
Bleu_Skie posted...
^I'm sure you think you made some great points. (I don't have the patience to reply to all of that. Just assume I disagree and/or smh at most of your logical leaps)

Thank you for at least admitting that
1) They were logical
2) You were unreasonably triggered (re: smh)
3) You have no argument to make

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how you 'agree to disagree', without creating more Nazis.
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User Info: DarkZV2Beta

DarkZV2Beta
2 months ago#119
Bleu_Skie posted...
Edavy89 posted...
DaedalusEx posted...
Bleu_Skie posted...
In theory, sure, but when words lead to violence, the morality of it is less important.


And how do you plan on stopping words from leading to violence?


I could be wrong, but I believe that was kind of his point.

You werent wrong.

DarkZV2Beta posted...
Without freedom, safety is an illusion.
Those who trade liberty for security will lose both.

Quotes arent a basis of argument.

DarkZV2Beta posted...
People overreacting to words is what kills people. Words are just information. If you can't handle information, well... Why are you even on the internet? Look at all the words! Dangerous thinking!

Your snark is noted lol.

Saying words are just words is logical but not realistic.

They aren't wrong, though. If you give up your freedom, how are you going to maintain your security? Ask the people you gave everything to to kindly keep you safe when you have nothing left to offer them?
Telling people not to say mean words isn't going to prevent violence. Proper education is.
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jakisthe
2 months ago#120
>Complains that having reviewers reference their personal politics for reviews like Bayonetta 2 are bad for the industry
>Review bombs a developer for political reasons

Oh...
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