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User Info: DaedalusEx

DaedalusEx
2 months ago#141
jakisthe posted...
>Ostensibly fights against censorship
>Only wants the side which represents his own political interests to be able to have an "appropriate response"; anything else is "forcing a viewpoint" or "abusing the system" and should not be voiced


You're missing the part where writing a review isn't censorship. When someone writes a bad review, there is no attempt to remove or render information inaccessible--all information that was available before the review was written is still available afterwards. The same cannot be said about using the DMCA to take down videos, so your equivalence is false.

User Info: jakisthe

jakisthe
2 months ago#142
You're missing the part where it's still striking back; a politically motivated action designed to create a chilling effect, saying "don't do that again, devs", except you keep getting caught up on the exact minutea. Not to worry - I'll help:
jakisthe posted...
I'll just keep quoting this, since you don't seem to understand it:

>Ostensibly fights against censorship
>Only wants the side which represents his own political interests to be able to have an "appropriate response"; anything else is "forcing a viewpoint" or "abusing the system" and should not be voiced
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Death_Born
2 months ago#143
DarkZV2Beta posted...
Randomly blurting out a "naughty word" isn't hate speech.


One does not simply randomly blurt out that word. It's just not something people do if they have any sense of rational reality and self control. Randomly blurting something out implies you've said it so many times it's become second nature. So either he has said the word many times before as an insult - in which case, he's a racist - or he consciously chose to say that word, in which case it's also a racist.

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captsplatter_1
2 months ago#144
k bye no one will miss you.
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User Info: AlleRacing

AlleRacing
2 months ago#145
jakisthe posted...
You're missing the part where it's still striking back; a politically motivated action designed to create a chilling effect, saying "don't do that again, devs", except you keep getting caught up on the exact minutea. Not to worry - I'll help:
jakisthe posted...
I'll just keep quoting this, since you don't seem to understand it:

>Ostensibly fights against censorship
>Only wants the side which represents his own political interests to be able to have an "appropriate response"; anything else is "forcing a viewpoint" or "abusing the system" and should not be voiced

And you're missing the part where those are not equivalent actions. One is an attempt at censorship, which removes information, the other is direct criticism of those actions with no attempt to censor anything.

You can criticize and argue without using censorship. A retaliatory review bomb is not censorship.
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User Info: jakisthe

jakisthe
2 months ago#146
Right. CS also didn't shut down a major quantitative metric of PDPs sole product on a huge online marketplace - it's almost like each individual action has it's nuances. It's a chilling effect and, again, trying to whataboutit is missing the forest for the trees. Both are actions each side is able to take which they feel is justified. It has also happened in times outside of this one particular incident, with the exact same people saying that they were uniquely right and the other side uniquely wrong. It's like people can only understand a very narrow view, free of context or longer term effects. Truly, it baffles.
jakisthe posted...
>Ostensibly fights against censorship
>Only wants the side which represents his own political interests to be able to have an "appropriate response"; anything else is "forcing a viewpoint" or "abusing the system" and should not be voiced
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User Info: AlleRacing

AlleRacing
2 months ago#147
So according to you, criticism and persuasion are equivalent to censorship. I think you're the one with the narrow view.

>Ostensibly fights against censorship
>does not use censorship to achieve this goal
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User Info: jakisthe

jakisthe
2 months ago#148
No, I just understand what a chilling effect means, but I'm not sure how having a broader definition is a narrow view. It's almost like trying to do an exact one to one correlation of the two actions is a fools errand, and so it then boils down to the concept of politically motivated reactions in the first place. Hmmmmmmmmm.....

>Ostensibly fights against censorship
>Only understands censorship in an extremely narrow capacity
>Ignores any other instances

Oh...

Also, I'm going to assume you were ok with the Bayonetta 2 review calling into question the politics of the game as a reason to lower the score, right?
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User Info: AlleRacing

AlleRacing
2 months ago#149
jakisthe posted...
No, I just understand what a chilling effect means, but I'm not sure how having a broader definition is a narrow view. It's almost like trying to do an exact one to one correlation of the two actions is a fools errand, and so it then boils down to the concept of politically motivated reactions in the first place. Hmmmmmmmmm.....

>Ostensibly fights against censorship
>Only understands censorship in an extremely narrow capacity
>Ignores any other instances

Oh...

So censorship should not be criticized? That's what I'm getting from you.
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AlleRacing
2 months ago#150
jakisthe posted...
Also, I'm going to assume you were ok with the Bayonetta 2 review calling into question the politics of the game as a reason to lower the score, right?


Correct.
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