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User Info: gundamaniacx20a

gundamaniacx20a
3 weeks ago#11
I'm waiting on Ice lake next year before I upgrade. Rumored to be 8c16t, but even if its not, the gains and platform change will finally be worth the upgrade from my 4770k most likely.
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User Info: CursedPanther

CursedPanther
3 weeks ago#12
JKatarn posted...
iemerg_ posted...
They claim a 25% increase in gaming over the 7700K we'll see. If that's true and they fix the TIM issues I might actually sell my 7700K/Z270 for the new 8700K setup.


That seems extremely optimistic/highly situational. I'm betting 10-15% in CPU bound games/situations at best.

Which is why the smart move here is wait for the professional reviews first before you so desperately depart with your hard earned cash.

Or maybe not so hard earned cuz it's outta your parents' credit cards...

User Info: halomonkey1_3_5

halomonkey1_3_5
3 weeks ago#13
it'll be 25% in the 1 game that actually scales across 12 threads

every other game will be 1-10% faster depending on how well it scales with additional cores
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User Info: JKatarn

JKatarn
3 weeks ago#14
halomonkey1_3_5 posted...
it'll be 25% in the 1 game that actually scales across 12 threads

every other game will be 1-10% faster depending on how well it scales with additional cores


Yep.
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User Info: BlackBlazeQ

BlackBlazeQ
3 weeks ago#15
I don't really care I'm pretty sure the 8700k will be good plus I'm not paying any extra money. I'm talking my mobo and processor back to microcenter using store credit to get the z370 and 8700k. Now all I need to know is when will they have it in stock. Should I call off work Oct 5 and stand in line in the morning lol. I'm sure this will sell out like hotcakes
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JKatarn
3 weeks ago#16
BlackBlazeQ posted...
I don't really care I'm pretty sure the 8700k will be good plus I'm not paying any extra money. I'm talking my mobo and processor back to microcenter using store credit to get the z370 and 8700k. Now all I need to know is when will they have it in stock. Should I call off work Oct 5 and stand in line in the morning lol. I'm sure this will sell out like hotcakes


Good for you? It's your money, but we are free to speak our mind.
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User Info: BlackBlazeQ

BlackBlazeQ
3 weeks ago#17
JKatarn posted...
BlackBlazeQ posted...
I don't really care I'm pretty sure the 8700k will be good plus I'm not paying any extra money. I'm talking my mobo and processor back to microcenter using store credit to get the z370 and 8700k. Now all I need to know is when will they have it in stock. Should I call off work Oct 5 and stand in line in the morning lol. I'm sure this will sell out like hotcakes


Good for you? It's your money, but we are free to speak our mind.


Hmmmm never said you couldn't speak your mind lol wtf.....
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User Info: JonWood007

JonWood007
3 weeks ago#18
I respect your decision to upgrade and it's your money, but dam your current rig is still really good. I'll be upgrading from a Sandy bridge so I'm really in need of a upgrade, I've gotten my money worth out of it too.


Even SB might be too soon given that there will be even better stuff out next year (8 cores according to current rumor mills).

But yeah, I kinda felt ripped off by the 7700k and coffee lake coming out so soon but looking at the leaked benches, it REALLY isnt worth getting an i7 8700k JUST for gaming. If you're upgrading from an old build sure, but not from kaby lake. The 7700k looks functionally equivalent to the 8600k, and the 8700k is only about 10% better on average.

They claim a 25% increase in gaming over the 7700K we'll see. If that's true and they fix the TIM issues I might actually sell my 7700K/Z270 for the new 8700K setup.


Based on early reviews 25% is optimistic and likely represents the most extreme edge case scenario. Games seem to average about 7-10% faster. Some games up to 2% slower due to the slightly lower turbo clocks, some games 15-20% faster. That's AOTS level multithreading, which is really the most extreme/optimistic case for multithreaded gaming performance.

i7s are effectively back to being $100 more for an extra 10% performance, i5s are going back to being the gaming sweet spot, with the 8600k being similar to the 7700k from what I can see (although only gaming benches for the 8600k are in 4k).

As for thermals, 8700k looks like a nightmare to cool. it's 10C HOTTER than the 7700k, which in my experience is barely passable as far as thermals go for my own use. It's a monster.

Sources:

https://videocardz.com/72915/first-review-of-intel-core-i7-8700k-leaks-out

https://videocardz.com/72986/intel-core-i7-8700k-and-i5-8600k-review-leaked

Honestly unless you stream or want something more futureproof (which i wouldnt bother doing given how fast tech is advancing), just stick with the 7700k. It's still going to be good for a few years or more.
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User Info: BlackBlazeQ

BlackBlazeQ
3 weeks ago#19
JonWood007 posted...
I respect your decision to upgrade and it's your money, but dam your current rig is still really good. I'll be upgrading from a Sandy bridge so I'm really in need of a upgrade, I've gotten my money worth out of it too.


Even SB might be too soon given that there will be even better stuff out next year (8 cores according to current rumor mills).

But yeah, I kinda felt ripped off by the 7700k and coffee lake coming out so soon but looking at the leaked benches, it REALLY isnt worth getting an i7 8700k JUST for gaming. If you're upgrading from an old build sure, but not from kaby lake. The 7700k looks functionally equivalent to the 8600k, and the 8700k is only about 10% better on average.

They claim a 25% increase in gaming over the 7700K we'll see. If that's true and they fix the TIM issues I might actually sell my 7700K/Z270 for the new 8700K setup.


Based on early reviews 25% is optimistic and likely represents the most extreme edge case scenario. Games seem to average about 7-10% faster. Some games up to 2% slower due to the slightly lower turbo clocks, some games 15-20% faster. That's AOTS level multithreading, which is really the most extreme/optimistic case for multithreaded gaming performance.

i7s are effectively back to being $100 more for an extra 10% performance, i5s are going back to being the gaming sweet spot, with the 8600k being similar to the 7700k from what I can see (although only gaming benches for the 8600k are in 4k).

As for thermals, 8700k looks like a nightmare to cool. it's 10C HOTTER than the 7700k, which in my experience is barely passable as far as thermals go for my own use. It's a monster.

Sources:

https://videocardz.com/72915/first-review-of-intel-core-i7-8700k-leaks-out

https://videocardz.com/72986/intel-core-i7-8700k-and-i5-8600k-review-leaked

Honestly unless you stream or want something more futureproof (which i wouldnt bother doing given how fast tech is advancing), just stick with the 7700k. It's still going to be good for a few years or more.


You make some good points, but I'm upgrading for multiple reasons. I can take my cpu and mobo back to microcenter and pay a small difference. Why not lol.

I want more than 4 cores because I'm actually considering streaming and doing other stiff where multiple cores can help. Also alot of games I play like pubg and battlefield1 takes advantage of multiple cores.
Also future proofing. Alot of games may not take advantage of multicores now but I'm the future when they do I will have them available to use instead of having only 4.

So yea with that being said I'm ready for the 8700k now. I'm excited to have a 6 core cpu
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User Info: BlackBlazeQ

BlackBlazeQ
3 weeks ago#20
called my microcenter and they said they may have em day 1. Thay had 7th gen day 1 so I guess we will see what happens.
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