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User Info: Mr kitty

Mr kitty
2 months ago#1
https://twitter.com/TheBattlEye/status/918731198679183360

They have banned over 322 000 accounts. They got to refute one day. It's mostly luck. No such thing as skill.
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User Info: Noraneko_Vel

Noraneko_Vel
2 months ago#2
bots and hackdevs advertising cheat sites
bots creating more bot accounts on ban
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User Info: _GRIM_FANDANGO_

_GRIM_FANDANGO_
2 months ago#3
I never understood the cheating. I just don't understand how it is fun to do well due to a cheat. I also don't understand how people are not bothered that they are ruining the experience of others.
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User Info: dunkis

dunkis
2 months ago#4
An immature, insecure human will tend to do whatever they can to empower themselves, even if just a vain fantasy. I imagine many of those sorts of people are drawn to shooters because it's such an empowering, emasculating thing. And then they cheat to feel even more empowered. It's less about fun and more about just beating others, having a sense of control and power they otherwise lack in their typically worthless lives. After all, if they had anything, they wouldn't waste their time on cheating. That's why it's also hard to understand how such humans can exist, we take for granted what we have.
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User Info: Orestes417

Orestes417
2 months ago#5
On the part of the cheat creators there's basically two motivations. Money and an intrinsic interest in deconstructing systems and exploiting weaknesses in them. On the part of the cheaters it's generally either a desire to inflate their ego or to spoil games.
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User Info: spike_spiegel

spike_spiegel
2 months ago#6
For one thing BE is a horrible anti-cheat program that is exploited the moment it's updated. I've infiltrated the script kiddie scene before years ago to see what they did out of morbid curiosity and they're constantly watching for updates, modifying files, alerting communities when a script is detectable, etc. I'm not linking to any sites I was on or communities but they typically had 5,000-400,000+ people active at a time in them.

User Info: Lienhart

Lienhart
2 months ago#7
spike_spiegel posted...
For one thing BE is a horrible anti-cheat program that is exploited the moment it's updated. I've infiltrated the script kiddie scene before years ago to see what they did out of morbid curiosity and they're constantly watching for updates, modifying files, alerting communities when a script is detectable, etc. I'm not linking to any sites I was on or communities but they typically had 5,000-400,000+ people active at a time in them.


..................................................................explain to me what makes an anti-cheat a bad anti-cheat?

Do you know how VAC works? Because it is incredibly easy to bypass by any programmer. However, it still blocks out the vast majority of users therefore it is an effective anti cheat.

User Info: Hexenherz

Hexenherz
2 months ago#8
_GRIM_FANDANGO_ posted...
I never understood the cheating. I just don't understand how it is fun to do well due to a cheat. I also don't understand how people are not bothered that they are ruining the experience of others.

People cheat specifically to ruin the experience of others. They like to get a reaction out of people really.

User Info: SilentCaay

SilentCaay
2 months ago#9
Take it from someone who's played competitive games, mostly shooters, for a long time. It's mostly entitlement. Not out of trolling or bullying or "fairness" because "everyone cheats" (there is some of that, too, of course) but there are just too many people that think they're entitled to win. They don't have to practice, learn the in-depth mechanics or improve themselves, they simply think they're supposed to win. I've talked to cheaters and it's kind of amazing how they will so thoroughly make excuses as to why it's fine for them to cheat.

These sorts of people are drawn to shooters because it's impossible to block certain types of hacks. Aimbotting and wallhacking use player position data which the client needs in order to render the player models. If the server only sent player position data when it thought that the client needed it then any slight lag would have players popping into existence a meter after they rounded a corner. This would be compounded when the player themself rounded a corner and encountered a bunch of other players that would be invisible for a few frames and then suddenly pop into existence. So the best any FPS game can hope for is central servers with strong cheat detection.

You can see this sort of entitlement outside of FPS games, too, though. If you look up forums almost any F2P game where hacking isn't possible, there will be a vocal crowd incessantly whining about imbalance even if the game is fairly well-balanced. It's not that it's imbalanced, it's just that there are a lot of people that think they deserve wins. It's stems from the instant gratification mindset that is so common these days. People don't want to work for anything. They just want gratification and they want it now.
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User Info: Lienhart

Lienhart
2 months ago#10
SilentCaay posted...
Take it from someone who's played competitive games, mostly shooters, for a long time. It's mostly entitlement. Not out of trolling or bullying or "fairness" because "everyone cheats" (there is some of that, too, of course) but there are just too many people that think they're entitled to win. They don't have to practice, learn the in-depth mechanics or improve themselves, they simply think they're supposed to win. I've talked to cheaters and it's kind of amazing how they will so thoroughly make excuses as to why it's fine for them to cheat.


Myself and 2 other friends used to wall hack using wall hacks I wrote.They only stopped because I'm too lazy to figure out how to make it work for newer games.

The reason for wallhacks is due to what we learned in CS1.6 way back. Since you are competitive, you will likely understand this even if you don't agree with the method to achieve this.

All FPS games have some form of pre shooting. The problem is learning where to pre shoot takes forever, and usually a lot of dying. Wall hacks cut the amount of time to learn where to pre shoot by literally 50%-75%. Even once the wall hack has been turned off, the association between "Oh, people often come from here" sticks and you will pre shoot on demand.

It also makes you learn movement patterns FAR QUICKER than no wall hack. You'll also notice a lot more hackers when you wall hack...I've even waved at people through a wall a few times only to have them wave back lol
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