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Wolfenstein: Yet another game that gives the finger to the deaf/hard of hearing

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User Info: Sonorous_Jon1S8

Sonorous_Jon1S8
4 weeks ago#51
Subtitling is the bare minimum and a completely reasonable expectation.

User Info: XianMei

XianMei
4 weeks ago#52
darktemplar20 posted...
CourtofOwls posted...
CourtofOwls posted...
you have subtitles set to always on and not just "foreign only"?


that was legit question,i wasn't being condesending or anything
the game defaults to foreign only subtitles and i was putting it forward as a possibility it was set to that instead of always on


My bad. I myself haven't played the game, so wasn't aware. Apologies.


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User Info: almightydun

almightydun
4 weeks ago#53
Regardless of how you actually feel about the issue, and what you think about disability in general, not having subs in pretty much anything these days with such a budget is lazy AF.

I have a deaf parent whom I lived with my entire young life. We had a closed captioning box on our television set. I have had subtitles in some form or another for pretty much my whole life. Not having them is a joke. Playing games was a struggle for anyone who couldn't hear. (Hard of Hearing or straight up Deaf it both sucked)

Expecting bare minimum accessibility options in our media is not something that is unreasonable.
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User Info: MarceloSampaio

MarceloSampaio
4 weeks ago#54
The cranky hermit posted...
KQ7 allowed subtitles. You had to turn them on in the setup tool, but they were always there.
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As far as I know, it's not THAT simple.
There's no option to turn subtitles on in the game or in the setup program. Instead, you had to trick the game into thinking your computer didn't have enough memory to play voices by editing some .CFG file, start the game (the sound won't be working, BTW), save, edit the file again to disable the "trick" and load your game.

Not only it's not an official way of doing things, it was never documented, and some random guy found out about this YEARS after the game's release.

And this begs the question: if the game DOES have the subtitle files, WHY CAN'T I EASILY ENABLE THEM, SIERRA??? Just like you can do in ALL voiced Lucas Arts games.

As someone why had quite a bit of trouble understand spoken English, that angered me.
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User Info: BearShrooms

BearShrooms
4 weeks ago#55
almightydun posted...
Regardless of how you actually feel about the issue, and what you think about disability in general, not having subs in pretty much anything these days with such a budget is lazy AF.

I have a deaf parent whom I lived with my entire young life. We had a closed captioning box on our television set. I have had subtitles in some form or another for pretty much my whole life. Not having them is a joke. Playing games was a struggle for anyone who couldn't hear. (Hard of Hearing or straight up Deaf it both sucked)

Expecting bare minimum accessibility options in our media is not something that is unreasonable.


Having expectations about a completely voluntary product that serves no purpose beyond pointless entertainment is a little self-entitled. If you don't like it, don't buy it, it literally is just a video game.

User Info: Izicial

Izicial
4 weeks ago#56
Assuming this was bought on steam why not just return it if you aren't happy?

User Info: almightydun

almightydun
4 weeks ago#57
BearShrooms posted...
Having expectations about a completely voluntary product that serves no purpose beyond pointless entertainment is a little self-entitled. If you don't like it, don't buy it, it literally is just a video game.


Sure. Just like we don't go to the movies unless they have an accessibility option.

The issue stems from this:

http://puu.sh/yoH7s/4b1e6bf9b0.jpg

This is a screenshot of the Steam page for the game. Now as you see it specifically states English subtitles. I have not played the game so I just have the OP to go by here, but nowhere is it stated PARTIAL subtitles. Or subtitles for gameplay portions only or any other mixture.

This is a problem in a LOT of media. Things are stated to be one way at the point of purchase, and then they are actually not FULLY accessible as was advertised. This leaves a foul taste in the mouth of anyone relying on these accessibility in order to enjoy the media they have purchased.
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The cranky hermit 4 weeks ago#58
MarceloSampaio posted...

Not only it's not an official way of doing things, it was never documented, and some random guy found out about this YEARS after the game's release.

I knew about the official method in 1995. The only reason you have to jump through hoops now is because the GOG version doesn't include the original setup program. But that wasn't an issue back then.
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User Info: MarceloSampaio

MarceloSampaio
4 weeks ago#59
The cranky hermit posted...
MarceloSampaio posted...

Not only it's not an official way of doing things, it was never documented, and some random guy found out about this YEARS after the game's release.

I knew about the official method in 1995. The only reason you have to jump through hoops now is because the GOG version doesn't include the original setup program. But that wasn't an issue back then.

Then I guess my disc is missing something, because it doesn't include the option to enable subtitles in the setup program. There's no "official" way to enable subtitles in my version. And yes, it's an original disc. ;)

I don't even have the GOG version.
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User Info: RainblowDash

RainblowDash
4 weeks ago#60
That's too bad.
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