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User Info: Dragon Nexus

Dragon Nexus
1 month ago#71
MakoReizei posted...
Because people only seem to care once it's done to a girl.


Well it's more difficult to be sexist to your own sex.
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User Info: GeseztKatze

GeseztKatze
1 month ago#72
I guess the way women are treated is part of the problem because, as Dawnshadow said, they're usually not very interested in being hit on when gaming, to put it lightly. There's a bit of sexism too. So that's one part of it.

The second part is because they are interested in specific kinds of games, like The Sims, or in other things.

The third part is related to the second: they're not encouraged to play games. You have to have in mind that society defines certains rolls for women from birth. It's not like they can't but that they may be treated differently if they "break the norms".

That kind of thing happens to us as well, as men. How many of us were teased for not being into sports, or not drinking, or not doing this or that? It's call gender rolls and it sucks because you're limited to certain activities or behaviors or else you're punished by society. It started to get better recently but it still exists and that kind of conditioning keep large amounts of women from gaming because they never experimented or because think they'll be treated differently by society at large if they engage in that kind of activity, as if they were not as feminine.

A lot of people try to attack the feminist movement, but most of it is about combating those gender norms trying to free people from that kind of limitation.
I should really start finishing the phrases I...
The cranky hermit 1 month ago#73
Orestes417 posted...
Any time the word micro-aggression is used in any sort of serious context comes to mind immediately. Ditto for #safespaces and trigger warnings.

Safe spaces and trigger warnings are about a million times more likely to be used to sarcastically belittle people than to be used in earnest, and in the rare even they are used in earnest, it's to voluntarily accommodate sensitivities, not to demand that you do. When a TV newscaster says "viewers may find this segment disturbing," that's a trigger warning, and reacting by telling the TV "suck it up I'm not indulging your sensitivities" wouldn't be very logical. If you think about it, spoiler warnings are a kind of trigger warning, and oddly enough those are widely considered common courtesy rather than coddling.

As for micro-aggressions, that's just an annoying neologism. I prefer to call it "diet racism." Or whatever other ism best fits. The cumulative effect of seeing people lock their car doors when you walk near them, being asked prying questions that reaffirm stereotypes, and generally being subtly demeaned on a daily basis may be more psychologically damaging than overt and intentional racism. I don't know what the right way to deal with individual offenders is, but if you say "suck it up, buttercup" to a Russian-American who told you that your attempt at levity with an impression of Lieutenant Zofia from Red Alert 2 was offensive and not funny, you're being an a******.
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User Info: kaufmaniac

kaufmaniac
1 month ago#74
Amuseum posted...
KaizerLaw posted...
And what exactly is stopping any woman that wants to play PC games from doing it?
If there are less women that play PC games than men, it is probably because women tend to gravitate to other activities of their own free will.
No one is stopping women from playing PC games.


Free will is a huge problem we as society today must curb. Too much free will is why women are not engaging in such highly regarded activities like hardcore PC gaming and STEM fields.

Thus, we must reduce the amount of free will in women in western societies, and force them into specific activities regardless of their volition.


Amuseum posted...
KaizerLaw posted...
And what exactly is stopping any woman that wants to play PC games from doing it?
If there are less women that play PC games than men, it is probably because women tend to gravitate to other activities of their own free will.
No one is stopping women from playing PC games.


Free will is a huge problem we as society today must curb. Too much free will is why women are not engaging in such highly regarded activities like hardcore PC gaming and STEM fields.

Thus, we must reduce the amount of free will in women in western societies, and force them into specific activities regardless of their volition.


I'm 99% sure the op is just baiting but regarding what you said i found hilarious that in the feminazi utopia that is sweden the natural preferences Men and Women have become more pronounced.

User Info: MasteroftheArts

MasteroftheArts
1 month ago#75
celebar posted...
We really need to talk about how to make PC gaming not a boys club to be inclusive to women.


Actually, we don't.

celebar posted...
Unfortunately PC gaming has the stereotype of being for men only which is why everyone who builds a PC end up being a man and women are left behind to game on console (playstation).


Concern trolling inc.

celebar posted...
Because women game on console instead of PC we as PC gamers have a social barrier in place that prevents us from interacting with them as friends (possibly more than just friends).


You're full of s*** and women game on PC as well.

celebar posted...
Women often accuse us men of "mansplaining" so simply explaining to women why PC gaming is superior to playstation (console) is not a good idea as they will simply accuse you of mansplaining again.


Who gives a s*** what they think of someone's opinion?

celebar posted...
The fact that we don't even know how many women are on this board is a red flag because lets be honest this board is a sausage carnival so its not like there's a lot to keep track of.


Why do you need to know what the sex is of every person on this board? Stalking much?

What a s*** topic.
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User Info: GeseztKatze

GeseztKatze
1 month ago#76
MasteroftheArts posted...
celebar posted...
The fact that we don't even know how many women are on this board is a red flag because lets be honest this board is a sausage carnival so its not like there's a lot to keep track of.


Why do you need to know what the sex is of every person on this board? Stalking much?

What a s*** topic.

Yup. That was particularly alarming. That and "Marked you as female".

I mean, WTF...
I should really start finishing the phrases I...

User Info: celebar

celebar
1 month ago#77
Since when is advocating inclusiveness and wanting women to participate in a gaming community discussion board "stalking"? What is wrong with you people? No wonder gamers have such a bad reputation for being antisocial.

PS I'm GAY
thank you for reading my post
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User Info: CelticsHomerPro

CelticsHomerPro
1 month ago#78
I got into pc gaming because of a girl in my high-school webdesign class. Her dad was a game dev for Everquest.

I was strictly a console gamer and the psp had just come out around 2005. She was spending the time before class started browsing the wow forum so I asked about it since we were friends due to both being psp gamers. I didnt get wow since you needed a serious pc to run it in 2005 but I did get into diablo 2. Fast forward I eventually became knowledgeable enough after signed up for pc repair class at highschool and built a pc in class at the end of the year as final exam. Then in 09 I started to build my own pc for wow and other games. I got so into wow I eventually went to blizzcon in 2013 it was so surreal I had never seen such a large concentration of white people in my life from as far as the eye could see all super pale white dudes, I'm Somali male btw.

PC gaming is not only male it is white, nothing wrong but its very interesting because pc building is more complex and pricey then console gaming, I did get one brother and cousin into pc gaming, they mainly play lol.
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User Info: tific

tific
1 month ago#79
Women have historically been equally capable & familiar with computing in Employment dating back to the 2nd world war.

http://www.history.com/news/coding-used-to-be-a-womans-job-so-it-was-paid-less-and-undervalued

Women & families were involved in home computer gaming on the Atari st , Commodore C64 , Commodore Amiga , Sinclair Zx Spectrum , Amstrad & Bbc microcomputer in the eighties & early 90's before the pc became the dominant platform.

Your post highlights a lack of women experiencing pc gaming but presumes its because of men..
https://i.imgur.com/HuyI1T5.jpg

tific

Did you consider that it's could be the outdated image of the pc .Or its lack of titles which appeal to multiplayers ?

Eg

Games are supposed to appeal , attract, entice or inspire. And there are plenty of females & families attending arcades.Here's a list of arcade games from 2014. I chose 2014 because it leaves plenty of time for conversion.

http://arcadeheroes.com/arcade-releases-2014/

How many games do you think will be or are available on pc and if they were available how do you think they will be played or promoted when this is a typical image of a pc gamer?

https://i.imgur.com/y1VfVka.jpg

The pc is a specialist item with an outdated image being the device for work surrounded by furniture associated with a work environment..Women & families are gaming on consoles , tablets , laptops & phones but the pc has this image of somewhere you retreat to.

I think the pc setup & furniture environment is more of a factor than gender . As it suggests isolation , limits interaction & multiplaying.

The pc needs to occupy the living room to be more inclusive if possible .Just like the home computers of the eighties.
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User Info: celebar

celebar
1 month ago#80
^You know, those are some interesting ideas. So the problem would have to do with a lack of appreciation for the efficient productivity of a desk setup which would require a completely different approach to solving.
thank you for reading my post
regards, celebar
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