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User Info: Orestes417

Orestes417
1 month ago#11
ClunkerSlim posted...
monkmith posted...
didn't realize this was a thing since i always close everything before shutting down. common practice from years of lost data from improper shutdowns.

Yeah, really. I don’t think Microsoft is the problem here. You’ve got some poor computing habits bro.


Tsk Tsk. How dare you introduce logic in the face of laziness.
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User Info: sarevokmb

sarevokmb
1 month ago#12
ClunkerSlim posted...
monkmith posted...
didn't realize this was a thing since i always close everything before shutting down. common practice from years of lost data from improper shutdowns.

Yeah, really. I don’t think Microsoft is the problem here. You’ve got some poor computing habits bro.


It isn't like I'm yanking the power cord out of the wall every time I shut down. I am doing a regular shutdown, just without manually closing Chrome and a dozen other non-essential programs first. There is nothing wrong with this and 0% chance of data corruption or loss (and I really wouldn't give a **** if Chrome had data loss). Maybe back in the Windows 98/XP days, but nowadays Windows waits for those programs to fully exit out and then shuts down.

User Info: monkmith

monkmith
1 month ago#13
sarevokmb posted...
ClunkerSlim posted...
monkmith posted...
didn't realize this was a thing since i always close everything before shutting down. common practice from years of lost data from improper shutdowns.

Yeah, really. I don’t think Microsoft is the problem here. You’ve got some poor computing habits bro.


It isn't like I'm yanking the power cord out of the wall every time I shut down. I am doing a regular shutdown, just without manually closing Chrome and a dozen other non-essential programs first. There is nothing wrong with this and 0% chance of data corruption or loss (and I really wouldn't give a **** if Chrome had data loss). Maybe back in the Windows 98/XP days, but nowadays Windows waits for those programs to fully exit out and then shuts down.

well ok its a stupid design choice on microsofts side but its one you can easily mitigate by closing programs you're not using. give it time and i'm sure someone will come up with some form of fix if you really cant be bothered to close programs.
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User Info: Voxwik

Voxwik
1 month ago#14
Good lord there are ACTUALLY people so obsessed with defending Microsoft they would defend such a feature not having an off toggle? That is just nuts. It reminds me of the people bashing someone asking how to get photos out of Apple's program, because there is no reason to remove them from the program ever and they should be grateful for Apple's brilliance (I am not making that up). (You can copy/remove the photos but the topic was dominated by people rushing to complain about the affront to precious Apple.)

In a sea of frankly downright bizarre defensive posts, here is a REAL answer:
http://www.winhelponline.com/blog/stop-auto-reopen-programs-restart-windows-10/

(If someone finds this post in a search and that link is broken down the line, the answers are to use a shortcut to shutdown.exe or to click the desktop and use alt+f4 to use an alternate shutdown window.)

Arrogant UI designers strike again. How incredibly stupid. Small minded thought processes not accounting for the fact some people may want to turn this off. If I have 15 programs open across multiple monitors it is downright ludicrous to pretend this nonsense makes any sense, if they don't offer a toggle.

User Info: Orestes417

Orestes417
1 month ago#15
Someone needs to learn the difference between attacking and defending. Hint: I don't really care if MS made a stupid design choice, it's irrelevant to the point I'm making.
When nothing remains everything becomes possible.

User Info: ClunkerSlim

ClunkerSlim
1 month ago#16
sarevokmb posted...
ClunkerSlim posted...
monkmith posted...
didn't realize this was a thing since i always close everything before shutting down. common practice from years of lost data from improper shutdowns.

Yeah, really. I don’t think Microsoft is the problem here. You’ve got some poor computing habits bro.


It isn't like I'm yanking the power cord out of the wall every time I shut down. I am doing a regular shutdown, just without manually closing Chrome and a dozen other non-essential programs first. There is nothing wrong with this and 0% chance of data corruption or loss (and I really wouldn't give a **** if Chrome had data loss). Maybe back in the Windows 98/XP days, but nowadays Windows waits for those programs to fully exit out and then shuts down.

Yeah.... but still. It just feels icky. Just close the freaking window when you’re done. You’re not that guy who always kept like 50 porn tabs open, right? Just close your stuff as you’re done with it.

I’ve been annoyed by the new message of “closing open apps - Steam.” But I haven’t noticed any longer boot times. (Seriously though, the Steam message is starting to piss me off.)
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User Info: sarevokmb

sarevokmb
1 month ago#17
monkmith posted...
sarevokmb posted...
ClunkerSlim posted...
monkmith posted...
didn't realize this was a thing since i always close everything before shutting down. common practice from years of lost data from improper shutdowns.

Yeah, really. I don’t think Microsoft is the problem here. You’ve got some poor computing habits bro.


It isn't like I'm yanking the power cord out of the wall every time I shut down. I am doing a regular shutdown, just without manually closing Chrome and a dozen other non-essential programs first. There is nothing wrong with this and 0% chance of data corruption or loss (and I really wouldn't give a **** if Chrome had data loss). Maybe back in the Windows 98/XP days, but nowadays Windows waits for those programs to fully exit out and then shuts down.

well ok its a stupid design choice on microsofts side but its one you can easily mitigate by closing programs you're not using. give it time and i'm sure someone will come up with some form of fix if you really cant be bothered to close programs.


That's what I'm hoping for. It is still early, so hopefully someone finds a fix. It seems like they just added it because Apple does it with the new OSX, and forgot that Windows already basically had this functionality with hibernation mode.
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User Info: Voxwik

Voxwik
1 month ago#19
sarevokmb posted...
monkmith posted...
sarevokmb posted...
ClunkerSlim posted...
monkmith posted...
didn't realize this was a thing since i always close everything before shutting down. common practice from years of lost data from improper shutdowns.

Yeah, really. I don’t think Microsoft is the problem here. You’ve got some poor computing habits bro.


It isn't like I'm yanking the power cord out of the wall every time I shut down. I am doing a regular shutdown, just without manually closing Chrome and a dozen other non-essential programs first. There is nothing wrong with this and 0% chance of data corruption or loss (and I really wouldn't give a **** if Chrome had data loss). Maybe back in the Windows 98/XP days, but nowadays Windows waits for those programs to fully exit out and then shuts down.

well ok its a stupid design choice on microsofts side but its one you can easily mitigate by closing programs you're not using. give it time and i'm sure someone will come up with some form of fix if you really cant be bothered to close programs.


That's what I'm hoping for. It is still early, so hopefully someone finds a fix. It seems like they just added it because Apple does it with the new OSX, and forgot that Windows already basically had this functionality with hibernation mode.

As I said:
Alt + F4 after hitting the desktop or make a shortcut to "shutdown.exe /s" It should be an option, but that is a workaround.

User Info: Orestes417

Orestes417
1 month ago#20
Hibernation mode requires disk space equal to the amount of ram you have, a luxury some systems running Windows 10 don't have (looking at you laptops with small SSDs and tablets).
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