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User Info: Runner_style

4 years ago#201
Two that come to mind.

Aliens vs Predator 2010
Command and Conquer 4
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User Info: sockesocke

4 years ago#202
dragon quest 9 and 10.
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User Info: Assassin_X_Geth

4 years ago#203
How can ME be a bad series? One 4 minute ending somehow makes the last 3 games the worst things ever? >.>

Aside from that... my list is:
Assassins Creed
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User Info: Emperor_mateus

4 years ago#204
mtjormitch posted...
Emperor_mateus posted...
I think the fuss about mass effect's ending is a bit overblown but it did kill its own legacy this gen.

The game and most of its story where still good but many people will remember it as that game with a crappy ending.

As a guy who writes. The ending couldn't have been worse. They literally just went so bad with the ending that it is sickening that it even exists in the state it is in. I... can hardly believe how crappy it is. You would have to try to be that horrible. Even a amataur writer can tell you the millions of reasons why ME3's ending could quite possibly be the worst ending in all of fiction.

Oh, you don't have to convince me the ending sucked, i agree with that. Its just that i think the reaction about it was a bit to much.
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User Info: devlkore

4 years ago#205

Admittedly, I haven't actually played the new one, but from all the video reviews I have seen of it, I have no desire to, whereas a sequel in the same vein as the previous 2, I have been waiting for since forever.
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User Info: Sinfullyvannila

4 years ago#206
Necronmon posted...
To Sinful, I see you never played Xenogears or Saga, because those three you mentioned are far from the best stories in my eyes, they are up there but not the best.

I played XG back in the day. It's story had a lot going for it, but the pacing was atrocious. Also it was very poorly integrated with gameplay. Dat second disc...

Note, I said storytelling and not just stories.

That's usually the big problems with stories in story-based games. Especially the mid-90s ones. They don't integrate the story with the gameplay well. So you get big chunks of gameplay followed by small(or big in MGS and XS' case) chunks of story and the pacing suffers terribly.

FPS' and some platformers(Braid comes to mind, I never played all the way through braid though, I should do that some day) have been getting a lot better at the integration thing, but usually those genres don't have very interesting stories.

User Info: Sinfullyvannila

4 years ago#207
...did you really go there with that dumbass comment at the beginning. It voids your opinion entirely because of how inhumanly moronic and ignorant it truly is. It is a comment that deserves to die and for people to be banned over in video game websites. It is 100% ignorant and I will and shall not respect a human being who uses such a terrible statement it is.

Yes. That statement is that moronic and you should feel ashamed for proving your horrible untrue opinion that insults video games as a whole. Get out of this site. You sicken me.

Also only three... oh... so the past 20 years of amazing games with amazing stories=nothing then? Get out of my sight.

Planetscape torment is still better than 99% of games made today though.

Well, I've read a lot of novels, and I've played a lot of video games, and the best story-based video game stories I've played only begin to approach a mediocre novel that's made for an adult.

And for the record, I've been playing story based games all my life. I played pretty much every Square and Enix game, Black Isle, Obsidian, Bioware(only played the first Mass Effect and Dragon Age though).

And Torment is one of the most boring games I've ever played. I started that game up 6 times, and I can only get up to about the Catacombs under Pharod's little shanty town before I quit out of sheer boredom. And this was back when I was in the same "ZOMG videogames with stories r da best" phase that you are in. I don't understand how a developer who had so much experience with the AD&D rules could make a game that went so far against what made AD&D fun.

Why have fun with something mindless when you can have fun with something that is actually stimulating? Oh yeah... gamers are morons. Much like you yourself proved with that terrible statement. YOU CAN HAVE FUN WITH A STORY BASED GAME! Oh wait... I forgot, gamers are to much of morons to get this fact as well as the one which gameplay only games are just a waste of time. Why play tetris when I can play Bioshock? Seriously? Why play a timewasting piece of junk when I can play a modern classic?

No one has been able to go against this argument. At all.

You can have fun with a story-based game. I don't think anyone said otherwise. The problem is, most story-based games are so focused on their stories, that they neglect making their game as fun as they can be. See my Torment example. Everyone praises it's story, but have you ever heard anyone praise it's gameplay relative to Baldur's Gate 2 or the Icewind Dale games?

Also, games without stories can be very stimulating. It's funny that you mention Tetris, because that specific game was focused on a study of that very subject:

And really, Bioshock is just as much of a waste of time as Tetris. It's all a matter of how much you enjoy it. No need to insult Tetris fans who are thickening their cortex :P
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4 years ago#208
ZombieAkane posted...
FF13? Sold 182 million copies worldwide.

Sold about 40 million more copies than the consoles it's released for sold combined.

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4 years ago#209
Sinful, it's mitch. He is always wrong. GameFAQs law says so, I heard they are even considering putting it in the ToS.
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4 years ago#210
Mass Effect 3 was nowhere near as good as the developers promised it would be. Everything felt flat and uninteresting, nowhere near as good as Mass Effect 1 and 2 were. Even ignoring the horrendous ending, the game itself was nowhere near as gripping as the first two games.
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