The no spend/limited item challenge **very few spoilers**

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User Info: yesZnes

yesZnes
4 years ago#1
Hi boys and girls! Looks like it’s time for another run through the masterpiece that is FFV.

And do I ever have a challenge for you, yes you. It makes this game, the one you know and love, absolutely nerve racking. This challenge is so good, it motivated me to sign up to gamefaqs and write this post!

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I asked myself, is it possible to get through the game without spending one single gold piece. No items, no inns, no white/black/time spells! No nothing!

Unfortunately, it was surprisingly easy. The Thief inevitably becomes your merchant, acquiring all the gear and consumables you need. It is fun and different, and I encourage you to see for yourself.

However, this year I’m doing the No Spend + Limited Item Challenge. And it’s not for the feint of heart.

Let me explain:
-No spending money at any shop/inn or with any NPC
-No using the !GPToss skill
-No use of the Thief, ever
-No use of the Thief Knife etc..

However, because I’ve gone through most of it once before, I’m going to add some other stipulations:
-No accepting random enemies' dropped items. (Sound crazy doesn’t it? Seriously, even the game asks: “…Really?”)
-No talking about fight club
-No Bard (he’ll get you out of all the jams)
-No Lvl ? spells (too quick and dirty on some bosses)
-No Death Claw (same)
-No Rod Breaking (same)
-No game breaking with the Chemist’s abilities (same)
-No Save State (walk bro)
-100% treasure looting (have fun in Karnak)

Up to now I have these three provision:
-No item use, period?
-No over leveling?
-No 0xp +ABP grinding (no stalking skull eaters, shield dragons or movers grinding)?

That last three may be too much… But so far it’s been working. But if it gets too tough I’ll drop some or all of them. I had to add in the no randomly dropped items, because I found myself hording tents and death sickles. The nice thing is, if anyone else tries this challenge, all the gear is predictable for everyone's playthough.

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I’ve been a long time reader of gamefaqs, specifically articles related to this beast of a game. I remember reading an old EGM magazine article at a dentist’s office that said, “Hey readers: Do you love FF2 and FF3? Did you know there’s a game in between those two! Too bad for you, it’s not coming out on the SNES!!” Well I’d like to take a moment to thank everyone involved in getting it out of Japan in its various incarnations! I’m playing the GBA version of this game BTW.

It’s funny, the whole reason I started reading gamefaqs was to plan my characters jobs with the help of the JValjean FAQ.

That being said, I’d like to invite the community to try this one out with me!

User Info: yesZnes

yesZnes
4 years ago#2
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User Info: yesZnes

yesZnes
4 years ago#3
The really fresh thing about playing like this is:

-Some of the early bosses become laughably easy.
(There is a crazy easy set-up to beat Shiva and the dogs right when you meet her, no ifrit… no long/mythril swords)

-While some levels are jokes, others became ridiculous hard. I mean, has anyone ever really feared Toad in this game? Or Stone? What chya gonna do you do when you’ve got no white spells, 2 maidens kisses and 1 golden pin? Prayers? Vitamins? Chicken Knife?

-You end up with some ridiculous class combos for boss battles

-And you find your self asking:
Who do I give the knife to? (Lenna’s Knife that is)
Who’s gonna be walking barefoot?
Do I wait to get flash? (hell no, gotta get everything ASAFP!) …But seriously, 1 pair of silver specs and no eye-drops… it ain’t easy! (Especially if you’re too lazy to walk back to the wind shrine…)

But to me, the best has been some of the seemingly trivial questions I’ve been forced to think about in this almost 20 year old game. And I mean careful consideration here. Boss battles for instance: Which form do I kill Siren in? Which form do I kill Liquid Flame in? And how??

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Right now (4h 15m in… it seems to go much faster than a standard run), some how, I’ve acquired the First 3 Fire Crystal jobs. (with 17 seconds left… and all the chests… on the 4th try… while learning doom claw and aera =))

Everyone is lv.14. The clutch abilities my guys have learned so far are:
-Brawl
-Cover
-Learning
And that is all.

No one has Counter (or Chakra), 2Handed or !Blue yet.

Now, between the Trainer, Ninja and Geomancer, I’ve got some decisions to make, and I’ve got a Ranger Job to find. Good thing I got that Fire Bow… or did I? :p

I’ll post again next week right before I jump to world 2 and hopefully after I figure out how to kill prototype, without using control (if that’s even possible in this set up)

User Info: silktail

silktail
4 years ago#4
-While some levels are jokes, others became ridiculous hard. I mean, has anyone ever really feared Toad in this game? Or Stone? What chya gonna do you do when you’ve got no white spells, 2 maidens kisses and 1 golden pin? Prayers? Vitamins? Chicken Knife?

But wouldn't you have the Esuna spell, if you are trying to loot all the treasure in Karnak Castle?
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User Info: MalcolmMasher

MalcolmMasher
4 years ago#5
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Sadly, this won't work on GameFAQs. You can't edit posts that are older than about an hour. Which means I'm actually giving you this advice too late. :(

In other news, the idea of a FFV challenge that bans Bard is just... I mean, academically, I understand that there are things Bard can do which are (under the right circumstances) useful, but... whoa.
I don't like this duchy. Now, it's an adventurer.

User Info: MMSMB

MMSMB
4 years ago#6
So you mean that the only option we have for survival is items through chests?!

sounds fun XD. ill try it after finishing the 2-class run i've been doing.

I'm Ok with no stealing but removing ABP grinding and Level # spells is a bit harsh :(

What would we do against Exdeath at his castle? or the Sol-Cannon.

just give me Level 5 death and I'm golden :p

Edit: you should allow drops since well...... how do you heal yourself... *realizes*
BROKEN-PIRE

this'll be done on the GBA version right?
Welcome! If you're going to be traveling in these parts, I'd
recommend a Flame Shield.

User Info: yesZnes

yesZnes
4 years ago#7
Thanks for the responses!

@silktail, I was referring to the parts before Esuna. It’s such a weird feeling to play an FF game and say, does my main fighter really need those eye-drops? Generally in my play through I buy a dozen of each item and you’re pretty much set till the end, then it's just mana and tents.

@MalcolmMasher, I was trying to make a FFVe translated rom joke :p (I actually liked the story better when half the dialog was missing, and the boss battle speeches were in Japanese!)

User Info: yesZnes

yesZnes
4 years ago#8
@MMSMB, Yeah GBA, I thought they did a great job on the sealed temple and I’m excited to get in there with my 4 peasants!

I’ll PM you. There is a boss that I'm dreading in between those two.
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User Info: MMSMB

MMSMB
4 years ago#10
Ignore my last post since this is a no-item drop challenge. We'll need every item we get
Welcome! If you're going to be traveling in these parts, I'd
recommend a Flame Shield.
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