I don't see what's so bad about new jungle.

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User Info: Lord_Fork

Lord_Fork
4 years ago#1
I played Xin Zhao first time new jungle in ranked, bought machete 5 pots, got the upgrade to that and boots, then got merc treads and phage like I always do and then a vamp scep.

All lanes were doing swell, and I cleared camps like a boss and ganked plenty. Meanwhile enemy jungle Cho was lower level than me because he doesn't know how to new jungle.

You just need a hard leash on blue and from there it's literally no different from old jungle if you replace your cloth with machete. Of course, I did run 0/21/9 masteries to hold buffs longer and tank jungle better, which I did in season 2 jungle and seemed overkill, but appears to be mandatory in new jungle. Also, new jungle really hates boots 3.

Looking back, the machete upgrades into something with AD and tenacity, perfect for Xin because merc treads don't have homeguard (super OP) enchantments available, so I can get zerk greaves with homeguard and get my tenacity from elsewhere.
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User Info: Village Idiot

Village Idiot
4 years ago#2
The new jungle is supposed to give higher rewards.

Unfortunately the higher rewards doesn't kick in until the 11 min mark, and a few minutes later, the first tower will drop and your jungle will be stolen by your teammates.

Add in that you need to buy jungle-specific items like Hatchet, which doesn't help at all when ganking, along with more HP pots because jungle creeps does more damage, and sustain being more expensive.

Junglers are actually even more gold starved now than before.

But Riot will prob make changes, like they did with the catastrophic beginning S2 jungle.
Actually, since Wedge Antilles > Carriers, and Carriers = Instant win, then it should be Wedge Antilles > Instant win. He's just that good XD -PsionicDude

User Info: Black_Assassin

Black_Assassin
4 years ago#3
Village Idiot posted...
But Riot will prob make changes, like they did with the catastrophic beginning S2 jungle.

Want to remind what happened back then?

User Info: ritz2

ritz2
4 years ago#4
Black_Assassin posted...
Village Idiot posted...
But Riot will prob make changes, like they did with the catastrophic beginning S2 jungle.

Want to remind what happened back then?


jungle gave so little farm and xp it was worth having 2 duo lanes
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User Info: Village Idiot

Village Idiot
4 years ago#5
Black_Assassin posted...
Village Idiot posted...
But Riot will prob make changes, like they did with the catastrophic beginning S2 jungle.

Want to remind what happened back then?


Beginning S2 Jungle basically gave no XP/gold and if you fail a gank, you're so far behind now it might as well be GG.
Actually, since Wedge Antilles > Carriers, and Carriers = Instant win, then it should be Wedge Antilles > Instant win. He's just that good XD -PsionicDude

User Info: yourDaddie

yourDaddie
4 years ago#6
It's ok, it's just republicans complaining about change
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User Info: Rookie_Jet

Rookie_Jet
4 years ago#7
yourDaddie posted...
It's ok, it's just republicans complaining about change


LoLz!!

User Info: centurion911

centurion911
4 years ago#8
People forget that they nerfed lane minion gold and they buffed passive gold. The jungle will definitely give more gold
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User Info: WhyYouSoSmart

WhyYouSoSmart
4 years ago#9
yourDaddie posted...
It's ok, it's just republicans complaining about change


gg wp

User Info: beedtracker

beedtracker
4 years ago#10
centurion911 posted...
People forget that they nerfed lane minion gold and they buffed passive gold. The jungle will definitely give more gold


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