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An ult that can instantly steal health armor mr that gets better over time making the enemy tank less useful
An ability that steals attack damage from the enemy dps
An ability that causes him to have faster speed, makes him tankier (reduced cc), and attack faster.
I fail to see where you think he has no presence.
Maybe compared to junglers like xin who can jump in and disrupt a teamfight by knocking everyone away but there's ways to stop that just as you can stop trundle. Plus trundles pillar has plenty of "presence" in team fights.
Tank isn't useful atm even without you stealing arm/mr because all these crazy items and new penz formula. The hp steal is crap, 100-200 that tickles~
Melee range, no gap closer, good luck making it there.
And everyone else has AS boost as passive or carry it as you move without limiting yourself within the area.
He has some good point and made to be tankbuster, but his kit is totally outdated and tanks get melted anyway nowsday, plus there are champ doing his job better.
His jungle speed and sustain are good, no doubt about that, but his gank is weak, wut CC? only source of dmg being melee.
Did someone actually just say Trundle is easily counterjungled? Lol yeah, you mean with his W that gives him stupid good CC reduction and movespeed, a pillar that slows and blocks movement (not like there are any bottlenecks in the jungle M I RITE?) and a Q that steals the enemy's AD and gives it to himself. And if you're 6, an ult that steals resistances from the enemy too. You must not see a lot of Trundles in your sub 300 elo games.