Unofficial PBE Patch Notes for 1/24/2014 - Buffs for everyone? WTF! Edition.

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User Info: bIuerain

bIuerain
3 years ago#11
TomorrowDog posted...
And then you're a glass cannon Sona trying to auto-attack the enemy without dying instantly.


A squishy Sona can keep herself alive with good positioning in team fights. And if Diminuendo really could reduce damage to 0, it'd be going in with it, zeroing an enemy's damage and letting your allies kill it.

And it's not like a tanky Sona can't get 320 AP with all the tanky AP items that exist...
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User Info: Supercuaco666

Supercuaco666
3 years ago#12
UPDATE: Sona's W doesn't have a change, it's still the way it is on Live.

So, uh... nerf Sona just because.
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User Info: Knight_Of_Order

Knight_Of_Order
3 years ago#13
Supercuaco666 posted...
UPDATE: Sona's W doesn't have a change, it's still the way it is on Live.

So, uh... nerf Sona just because.


That sucks, but the W would've been broken as ****, even if you only reduced the damage by 50% it would completely neuter a champ.
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StarfishHeat
3 years ago#14
Because Sona is in dire need of nerfs, thanks Riot!
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User Info: Darkemaste

Darkemaste
3 years ago#15
So all I'm getting from this is that they gave a traditional support utility scaling at the cost of significant base/actual AP scaling, yet end up halving the utility scaling anyway while giving nothing back?

I don't even......

It's not like she's even a common pick atm. :|
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User Info: Xialoh

Xialoh
3 years ago#16
I've just about had it with Riot. They make 2 kinds of changes in this game - unwarranted ones, and drastically excessive ones. Maybe some day they'll make a necessary change and not go crazy in doing so.
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User Info: TomorrowDog

TomorrowDog
3 years ago#17
bIuerain posted...
A squishy Sona can keep herself alive with good positioning in team fights. And if Diminuendo really could reduce damage to 0, it'd be going in with it, zeroing an enemy's damage and letting your allies kill it.


If she negates all of one enemy's damage they are still able to use any escapes they have and aren't inhibited by any CC so she doesn't just "let her allies kill it", she doesn't negate the damage of the other four champions, good positioning lets any champion/team wreck. That is a basic idea of the game, but it is also true that the squishier you are and the less blinks/escape options you have the more conservative you have to play. You don't just cover that up with "good positioning". All players at a good skill level are using "good positioning" and abusing their advantages in that area.

And it's not like a tanky Sona can't get 320 AP with all the tanky AP items that exist...


Are you arguing what is technically possible or what is realistic on a support's income.
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User Info: Edgemaster70000

Edgemaster70000
3 years ago#18
Nerfing Sona into the ground in preseason wasn't bad enough, now they're just nerfing her for no reason at all.

Granted, this nerf isn't HUGE, because her E was already damn near useless anyway until late game, but it's the principle.
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User Info: SorrySleeping

SorrySleeping
3 years ago#19
Darkemaste posted...
So all I'm getting from this is that they gave a traditional support utility scaling at the cost of significant base/actual AP scaling, yet end up halving the utility scaling anyway while giving nothing back?

I don't even......

It's not like she's even a common pick atm. :|


Something is really wrong with PBE this cycle. We have Riot having no idea what they really want to do with Gragas or Kha'Xiz. Kassadin basically getting a rework in a single cycle unlike Skarner or Xerath. The Renekton changes the other day that were so far off they had to be a joke.

TomorrowDog posted...
Are you arguing what is technically possible or what is realistic on a support's income.


This is S4. Supports can afford items now, remember?
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User Info: TomorrowDog

TomorrowDog
3 years ago#20
Supports get some gold now so I'm going to theorycraft them having full build in every teamfight.
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