Smogon says Bullet Punch > Metal Claw (scizor) but why

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User Info: CptMellow

CptMellow
7 years ago#1
A Technician scizor would give a stronger attack with metal claw, and it has the potential to boost the attack. Even if bullet punch strikes first, isnt metal claw a better choice?
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User Info: RandomGuy440

RandomGuy440
7 years ago#2
Higher attack doesn't mean much when a pokemon can outspeed and KO you.

User Info: Byuusetsu

Byuusetsu
7 years ago#3
Hitting first is more important than the difference in base power, which isn't big. The chances of raising attack are also too low to be worthwhile.
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User Info: Mega_Pitch

Mega_Pitch
7 years ago#4
Bullet Punch = 40 Base 1.5 Technician 1.5 STAB = 90
Metal Claw = 50 Base 1.5 Technician 1.5 STAB = 112.5

22.5 difference. The gap widens when you mix in additional modifiers. But it's negligible when you consider Bullet Punch's priority and the fact that it has 100% accuracy vs. Metal Claw's 95%. And it's still very powerful. Swords Dance Bullet Punch is just plain vicious.

If you need more power, consider keeping Bullet Punch and using something else. Bug Bite is a good one. (60 base damage, Bug type! With technician and STAB it gets to 135 -- even better than what you'd get with Metal Claw)

User Info: BlueKami

BlueKami
7 years ago#5
Mixed Salamence @ Life Orb using Fire Blast on Scizor: OHKO
Tech Scizor @ Life Orb using BP with SD: OHKO

Make sure you kill them.
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User Info: mothballs

mothballs
7 years ago#6
Szicor Techinican Swords Dance Bullet Punch is just plain vicious.

fixed.


Scizor was never used before in competive until bullet punch. its a thankful cry- sczior is one of the most badass pokemon in the game, so of course people are gonna use it when they can attack first.

User Info: BlueKami

BlueKami
7 years ago#7

From: mothballs | #006
Szicor Techinican Swords Dance Bullet Punch is just plain vicious.

fixed.


Scizor was never used before in competive until bullet punch. its a thankful cry- sczior is one of the most badass pokemon in the game, so of course people are gonna use it when they can attack first.


Szicor is definitely vicious.
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User Info: PheonixFFire7

PheonixFFire7
7 years ago#8
Bullet Punch is the single reason Scizor is so damn popular. If it wasnt for that move, he'd only show up on teams with people trying to be "original". Having a STAB'd priority move with a Technician boost is amazing.

User Info: ChocoboMog123

ChocoboMog123
7 years ago#9
Scizor was BL until HGSS and was really one of the more usable BL's. Even without a reliable way to threaten things, STAB U-turn with awesome stats is just sexy. Plus, with his decent support movepool, he had a niche to fill here and there.

BTW, don't be mislead, SD Bullet Punch is good, but far from amazing. Scizor's main draw is his ability to scout with U-turn (which is complemented by Bullet Punch), not his ability to sweep. Most good Scizor have a Choice Band.
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User Info: destructoclaus

destructoclaus
7 years ago#10
SD Scizor is really only good late game.
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