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    Battlefield2 Knife Guide ( a SimonSays Guide )
    By |CBW|Simon
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    Version 1.2
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    E-mail: Simon@CanadianBlackWatch.com
    Website: http://www.CanadianBlackWatch.com
    Website: http://www.CBWGaming.com
    Copyright 2007 |CBW| The Canadian Black Watch Clan
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    Table of contents
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    +: Message from the author
    +: Authors knife stats
    +: Contributions
    +: History of this Guide
    1: Introduction
    2: Control Basics and Tips
    3: Knife Situations
    4: Missing with the Knife
    5: Best Kit for Knife
    6 :Knife Duel
    7 :Knife Against Guns
    8 :Knife Maps
    9 :Knife Pistol servers
    13:Common Questions
    14:Servers I play on
    16:Thank You
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    Message from |CBW|Simon
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    I often use google searches, forums and movie links to learn new or
    alternative tactics in Battlefield2. Many times I have come across
    the requests for help with the knife badge but I have never found a
    complete knife guide.  I thought that by writing this guide, it would
    allow me to learn more about other player’s tactics when they write
    in to either dispute my methods or report an obvious exclusion.
    I remember when I set off one weekend to get my basic knife badge
    and managed to get it in my first attempt by use of stealth.  
    During the game, my adrenaline was running high and I was excited
    and on edge the entire round.  Once I completed my goal and the round,
    I wanted to relax and not go through that intense game again for a
    bit.  I focused on some other weapons and didn't get back to the
    knife for a couple of weeks.  Once I got back to the knife and
    focused on more kills for my veterans and expert badges I found that
    I was almost the only one I would see consistently knifing a person
    or three each round.  The excitement is still there, but I'm used to
    it now and it doesn't wear me out by keeping me on the edge of my
    seat.  There are probably thousands of people that can do better with
    the knife than I, but since they haven't written a guide, you are
    stuck with me.
    I am glad to take this opportunity to give something back to the BF2
    community that has provided me with so much fun over the past few
    months.  I dedicate this guide to the people out there who help
    others, be it by guides or forum posts.  Also, to all the people who
    have had to tolerate my battle cry on team speak of "Taste my blade!"
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    |CBW|Simon's current knife stats
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    5/21/06 - Basic
    6/28/06 - Veterans
    7/2/06 - Expert
    7/26/06 - 300
    3/31/07 - 803
    Player ID 68617844
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    As previously stated, there are probably thousands of people that
    can do better with the knife than I.  Also, I may not remember
    everything I know or have learned.  If you have an idea and email
    it to me, I will review it and consider adding it to the guide
    (with proper credit to you).  If you have questions of knife
    situations, I will try to answer them individually. If they keep
    coming up, I will add them to the guide.
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    History of this Guide
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    Created: 7/27/06
    Update: 9/22/06 Release V:1.0
    Update: 11/12/06 Release V:1.1 
    Last Update: 3/31/07 Release V:1.2
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    Whats New 
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    1.1 : Added Whats new section
    Added UAV section to knife situations.  Codenamed Cerebro
    Added suggestions for combat zone.  Codenamed You Are My Density
    1.2 : Modified web addresses to match current whereabouts
    changed date on copywrite info
    Added Flash Bang to knife situations. Codenamed Walk Into The Light
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    - 1) Introduction      -
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    This guide is for the Battlefield 2 player that wants to learn to
    use the knife effectively.  We all know that the pointy end goes
    in the enemy, but in this guide you will be shown how to shop for
    targets of opportunity and to become lethal in close quarters
    situations.  The tips in this guide can be used to help you achieve
    the Basic Knife Badge as well as the Veteran and Expert Badges, but
    for some of you, this guide will change a small part of the focus
    of your play.  You will be a knife player.  Some would say this is
    one of the extremely hated player types, as what you will learn to
    do take skill, daring and stealth. Being knifed is one of the more
    shameful things that can happen to a player in game ranking second
    only to being paddled by a medic.
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    - 2) Your Knife Controls   -
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    It is no mistake that your knife control is default tied to the 1
    key.  Think about it.  The weapon kills in one hit, body armor or
    not.  The weapon needs no reloading and is instantly ready.  Every
    single kit comes with the knife.  The 1 key is fitting but if you
    want to really be ready for all situations, get a mouse with a few
    extra buttons on it and assign one of them to be the alternate
    weapon key for the knife.  My own Mx518 gaming mouse from Logitech
    is set up to pull the knife, pistol, gas mask and also changes my
    mouse sensitivity so I can alter the mouse when I'm in a tank (very
    sensitive) or if I'm the gunner in a chopper (very slow and steady). 
    The quick pull has allowed me to survive many meeting when I run
    out of ammo, or just allowed me to alter my plans when a knife
    opportunity presents itself.
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    - 3) Knife Use Situations  -
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    What are great knife situations?  Any situation you have a high
    chance of killing your opponent without him even realizing you are
    Your fly is open:  There are many times you will see the oblivious
    solo enemy perhaps wrench repairing a tank, or command asset, or
    even a singular enemy using the sparrow missile emplacements
    looking for a helicopter.  You can shoot these people, and if we
    are talking about a distance that will take you 10 or 15 seconds
    to run, but this is where your knife is crying for blood.  They
    are focused on a task and are deserving of a blade shaped reality
    I'm late, I'm late:  There is the enemy player that runs past your
    cover and continues on, unaware of you.  A bullet may get you two
    points, but a knife kill gets you the same points and a sense of
    accomplishment.  They make it easy on you and most of the time run
    in a straight line and then stop and lie down to fire at some
    target off in the distance.
    The wolf in sheep’s clothing:  If you see several enemy bodies
    and you hear one cry "Medic" (I have my English only speak
    enabled) then lie down IN the bodies, letting them mask your
    presence.  When the medic comes, wait for the revive, and then
    kill them both.  Be careful not to get paddled.
    Back door Susie:  Ever come around a corner to find two or more
    enemy engaged in a firefight facing away from you?  Nothing is
    more impressive than sticking two or three people in under three
    seconds in front of witnesses.
    I'm Batman (BF2 Special Forces):  Snipers love to go up ladders
    or stairways and lay claymores at the entrance to their lair.  
    Use the grapple of the AntiTank or Assault and let them figure
    out how you got up and snuck in behind them and stuck them.
    I'm Spiderman (BF2 Special Forces):  Much like the Batman in
    reverse.  You see enemy below you and you use your zip line to
    swoop in behind them and put yourself in position for the Back
    door Susie.
    Avon Calling:  I have had a couple of situations where I spawn
    into a point and notice two or more enemy on the flag.  You may
    already spawn on top of them and if you move fast enough, they
    will hesitate to shoot at you if you move in-between them. 
    Twice in my life, I have repelled a three person flag attack with
    the knife.  Without having to reload, nor hit more than once, it
    was the only way other than a grenade that I could have done it.  
    The added advantage that they are probably sitting still and prone
    on the flag helps. 
    Cerebro:  With any map, there will be UAV times.  Use the UAV
    runs as they occur to map out where your potential targets are. 
    Think like them too.  If you see two targets moving to a friendly
    flag, that may be where you want to spawn next if you happen to
    die soon.   If you see a stationary blip in a spot you know to be a
    great sniper nest, you may have a setup for a Back door Susie. 
    Watch the UAV runs and keep a situational awareness of where
    these little red dots are, where they are going or if they are planted.
    Don't be afraid to request UAV.  You need to be a Squad Leader to
    do that and use your default T key to get the SL commo rose.
    You Are My Density:  If you are looking for the basic knife badge,
    you want to go to areas of dense enemy activity and tight combat
    quarters. You do not want to be in the middle of it, but preferrably
    coming up from behind.  You may want to hitch a ride with a chopper
    heading to a spot but going over enemy territory, or possibly take a
    boat or fast attack vehicle the long way around to approach from
    behind.  You may think about being a Special Operations and
    blowing up the enemy UAV specifically so you can be as undetected
    as possible.  If you are hunting for awards then the situation and a
    really good day are all you need.  Don't go to low traffic areas and
    wait for the action to come to you.  You will burn too much time and
    lose your chance of getting the necessary kills in a round.
    Walk Into The Light:  If you know you are entering a room with a
    high chance of having enemy troops around, toss in a flash/bang
    from your Assault kit first.  The blinding light lasts for 10 to 15
    seconds.  If you are lucky, three or four enemies will be wandering
    around totally blind.  Add a knife to the mix and hilarity will
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    - 4) Knife Miss - Issues  -
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    Some people tell me that they try to knife someone and they see and
    hear the hit, but the other person lives.  I have to describe to
    you what is happening here.  Sometimes you will fight people and
    disparity between your pings may be large.  You at a ping of 122
    and the opponent at a ping of 10.  Your opponent will appear to be
    three places in programming language.  The first place is where he
    see's himself and this gets reported to the server.  The second
    place is where you see him and this is from what the server reports
    to you.  The third place is somewhere in the middle, where the
    server currently sees them to be.  If on your computer, it appears
    you hit him, you will see the hit and hear it as these graphics are
    a function of your computer.  As it turns out, he wasn't in knife
    range though so he continues on his merry way probably completely
    oblivious to your attack as he won’t hear or feel the hit that you
    saw.  Try again.  the bigger the disparity, the larger the difference
    of where he really is.  When stationary, this isn't important, but on
    moving targets, it is.  Remember that the first attack may not kill
    when you are attacking a moving target.  Plan for the miss and the
    continuation of the chase and follow-through attack.
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    - 5) What is the best kit to use  -
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    For every player and for every map, this will be a different answer.
    Use your kit and the map surroundings to your advantage.  If there is
    plenty of foliage cover, be a Sniper with the ghillie suit and use the
    cover to sneak up and kill your targets.  If there is no cover and you
    are taking fire at odd times, use the Support or Assault kits as you
    will have some body armor.  In Special forces, remember that the Batman
    or Spiderman are very kit oriented attacks and require the grapple or
    zip lines.
    In specific cases, you can also use mines from the Engineer kit to
    protect you from Tanks and APC's or claymores from the Sniper kit to
    prevent being someone else's Back door Susie.
    After a while, you will find that no matter what kit you have chosen,
    that the knife situations will present themselves, so don't hesitate
    to experiment with whatever works best for you.
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    - 6) Knife Duel  -
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    There comes a time when you try to knife someone and he runs out of
    ammo while trying to shoot you.  Also, he may realize you are trying
    for a knife kill and offer you mano y mano combat.  If he also pulls
    out his knife then you have some choices to make as to whether or not
    you just shoot him.  I hope you choose to go through and fight it out
    Thunderdome style.  Bob, weave and jump.  Feign forward, backward and
    thrust.  Of all my knife kills, I have been offered honorable combat
    once or twice so far.  I remember those situations to this day where
    as I normally don't remember many specific instance in a days worth of
    BF2 gaming.
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    - 7) Knife Against Gun    -
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    Up close, the knife vs gun debate is a hot issue.  My own personal
    feelings are that I've missed too many people up close with the gun
    because the person didn't sit still and let me kill them and I wasn't
    able to hit them more than once or twice before they shot me. 
    Personally, I would prefer to dance with them and let them take pot
    shots at me while I move in for the blade kill.  This gives them an
    adrenaline rush that will work in your favor.  I have seen people time
    and time again overreact because they are being attacked by someone
    with a knife.  This may give you the needed time to finish your 
    opponent.  Any time a close quarter combat situation presents itself,
    ask yourself if it should be gun or knife and be prepared to pull the
    blade at a moments notice.  If your opponent is a sniper and holding
    his rifle, use the blade.
    Medium range, unless the target is not looking at you or if he is 
    otherwise engaged in another target, you need to think about your gun 
    or a feign.  I often run in the opposite direction or half way around 
    an object that is between me and the target which will obstruct his 
    view and then double back.  Usually the target will go to face you and 
    you can attempt the Back door Susie.  Medium range is very dependent 
    on the situation and surroundings.  Contemplate the gun as a backup 
    Distance, forget it.  See if there is a way to close with the target 
    discretely.  The farther away a target is, the better a time it is 
    to hunt for someone else.
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    - 8) Maps              -
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    Every map is a knife map.  My own favorites are the ones that promote 
    close quarters combat.  For instance in Special Forces, the Iron Gator 
    when one side has the mess hall and the other side has the forward 
    hanger bay, the battle between those two points are fast as you contact 
    the enemy within three seconds of spawn if you run to the other p
    osition.  Also, between those two points are four different choices of 
    travel.  There is always a possibility to back door someone there.  The 
    other strong Special Forces map for me is Warlord.  When one side has 
    the third floor of the palace and the other side has the second floor, 
    there are multiple choices for paths between the two points.  Many 
    opportunities for fast and multiple knife kills come up here.  Make 
    sure your team is not nade spamming before you run forward to do your 
    deed.  Also, if you have killed two or three already in a tight area, 
    remember the Wolf in Sheep’s Clothing.
    For Vanilla BF2 maps, I've done a lot of good work on Strike At Karkand.
    The Hotel has a lot of alley ways that allow for CQB.  I have also had 
    a lot of luck and actually got my own Basic Knife on Songhua Stalemate 
    as a sniper.  The two sides on that map (Chinese and US) appear to use 
    the same character for sniper.  This gives you a moment delay as when 
    you approach someone and are not shooting, they assume you may be on 
    their side and delay for that important moment.   Sharqi Peninsula at 
    the construction site is also a great fast one to get a couple of blade 
    kills in if the enemy has the flag point there.  Please do not camp the 
    spawn area and not attempt a flag capture.  This is just flat out 
    camping and not really what the game is all about.  Some servers even 
    have strong rules against such behavior.  There are also so many knife 
    kills out there that this practice is unnecessary.
    Since the release of the Infantry Only mode, you can now play on servers
    that will guarantee you will not be vehicularly harrassed while in pursuit
    of scalps.  I have found these servers to be filled with medics and snipers
    both of which make my knife tingle with excitement.
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    - 9) Knife/Pistol servers  -
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    Unranked servers I don't have an issue with.  Ranked servers are against 
    the Rules of Engagement set up by Electronic Arts.  Play on them and 
    possibly have your stats wiped if you are caught.  If you are going to 
    listen to anyone regarding this route, then take my advice here: The 
    awards are not real and are worth nothing to other people.  Go this route 
    and they are worth nothing to you as well.
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    - 10)  Badges  -
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      -> Knife Combat <-
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      - Basic = 7 Knife Kills in 1 round
      - Veteran = 50 Global Knife Kills
      - Expert = 100 Global Knife Kills
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    - 11)  Ranks That require Knife Badges  -
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    First Sergeant    - Basic Knife Badge
    Brigadier General - Veteran Knife Badge
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    - 12)   Stats  -
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    Knowing where you are in your quest for your Knife Badges may motivate 
    you.  Here are some stat sites that will let you view your current 
    knife kills.
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    - 13) Common Questions      -
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    None as of yet.  Simon@CanadianBlackWatch.com  Subject: Knife Question
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    - 14) Servers I Play on      -
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    When you read this you were the learner, now you are the master?  Thou
    be drawn against heartless hinds?  Turn thee then Benvolio and face 
    thy death.
    CBW:  Current site http://www.CanadianBlackWatch.com
    and http://www.CBWGaming.com
    Server:   Canadian Black Watch BF2 Ranked 
    SourceOfEvil:  Current site http://www.SourceOfEvil.com
    Server: (Ranked)  =SoE=
    Packet-Loss:   Current site http://www.Packet-Loss.com
    Server:  Euro Force Ranked Server
    Don't be saddened.  Just because you get that "I wanna stab the fat man"
    look in your eye, doesn't mean I'll knife you.  Often times I will just 
    fill you full of lead.  So do yourself a favor, don't let me know you 
    are coming for me till after the blade slips between 5th and 6th ribs 
    from behind me.
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    - 15) Copyright/Distribution/Reproduction Guidelines -
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    This FAQ/Strategy Guide/Walkthrough is my own published work, and 
    copyrighted by |CBW|Simon.  Do not edit this FAQ nor borrow its contents
    in any way. If you want to use some information in your own guide,
    simply ask me. If you want to place this guide on your website download
    the file and host it, unaltered, on your own web server.  Please give all
    proper credit for the guide.
    Any site out there has permission to host my FAQs (following the above
    terms), however, these are a list of current sites that host my FAQs
    - http://www.gamefaqs.com/
    - http://www.canadianblackwatch.com/
    - http://www.cbwgaming.com/
    - http://cbwgaming.blogspot.com/
    - 16) Thank You        -
    I'd like to thank the following people and clans for their help in making
    this FAQ
    |CBW|The Clan - My brothers in arms.
    |CBW|Whipsaw - Always my cohort in treacherous humor attacks.
    |CBW|Spive - For your leadership, tolerance, guidance and friendship.
    |CBW|D@rknyte - The rock.  Be it the one I hide behind if we are on the
    same team or the one that lands on my head if we are not.  Thank you for
    recruiting me back in 2001.
    =HF= HellsFury clan at http://www.hellsfury.net for having hosted a
    BF2 Special Forces server that taught me the strength of teamwork
    and cooperation in BF2, not to mention many killer map strategies
    and much advice.
    =HF=Alfaeagle - Great clan and great fun.  Thank you.
    =HF=Linkster - aka, Mr. Kills-a-lot.  One of the best players I've met from
                            skill to attitude.
    =HF=Spider-HF-  - aka The Butcher.  Humor and death on foot or in sky.
    =SoE= Source of Evil clan at http://www.sourceofevil.com for hosting an
    awesome server with rotating games from BF2 SF AF and EF.  Also one
    of the founding members of the BF2player.com server alliance.
    =SoE=Dgrillo -   Thanks for putting up a server and not putting up with
                             cheaters and the likes.  A clean server with fun gamers
                             is getting harder to find.
    "The cutting edge of technology is covered in the blood of those
    who buy first"   |CBW|Simon
    Copyright 2007 |CBW| The Canadian Black Watch Clan

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