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    Ogre, Proud like a God - for Advanced and Beginners, Final Revision 5.02
    - by Renick(renickironfist@hotmail.com)
    To check if this FAQ is organised as it's supposed to be, please check
    underneath if the points and numbers line up properly:
    First of all, this guide is for personal use only. If you wanna use
    this publically, you can only do that if the credit goes to me. No dirty 
    tricks by stealing someone elses work. If you DO try and steal my work and 
    use it for your own profit, you are bananis my friend, because I'll find 
    out, and I will shut you down. This guide and everything displayed in this 
    text document is also owned by Renick. If there is any content of a copy of 
    this guide passed on to any website or profitable company without permission 
    of Renick, legal action will be taken against the indicated person. And for 
    the legal blah-blah-blah, Ogre and all characters in Tekken Tag Tournament 
    belong officially to Namco, All rights reserved 1999, 2000.
    What's new?
    - 2/24/00:
    In all my haste I've made some big mistakes on the layout and text formats. 
    I also added Sauer Krauts awesome site into the Sites section. Thanks to 
    everyone who e-mailed me to noticed the flaws I made. That's why this 
    revision will be the final revision instead of the last. Corrected some 
    horrible spelling mistakes as well, and added some stuff in the moves 
    section. I also forgot to add the miup surrounding 1,1 in the MIXING UP 
    - 2/14/00:
    As you probably noticed, this guide has been almost completely rebuilt. The 
    reason why, is because the layout of my Bryan FAQ turned more satisfactory, 
    and the previous revision of this FAQ had a lot of flaws, so you can expect 
    a clean sweep here. Have fun...!
    A - Introduction
    B - Conventions
    C - Move Analysis
    D - Blocking and Hit-ranges
    E - Okizeme
    F - Sidestepping
    G - Versus Character Strategy
    H - Tagging and Tag Strats.
    I - Poking
    J - Combo's/Juggles
    K - Custom Strings
    L - Throwing and Counters
    M - Buffering
    N - Recovery
    O - Countering
    P - Mixing Up
    Q - Conclusion
    R - Sites
    S - Thanks section
    The reason why I do a guide on Ogre is the fact that he has been kind of a 
    scapegoat among characters due to the fact that his arsenal actually 
    consists of several popular moves of each sub-boss in Tekken2. But the 
    combination of those moves make him unique in his own way. His description 
    is that he is some kind of tall Alien Aztec Monster (I still like the 
    classic green outfit best) with gold armor and a huge cool looking pony tail 
    behind his head, and makes very cool almost animal like sounds as he fights 
    (his voice is a lot higher now), and he excaims some unknown speeches in his 
    winning stances, and he can fly (I wish he could fly during gameplay!).  He 
    was a boss-charater in Tekken3, where he was introduced the first time, and 
    quickly was considered one of the cheapest and most powerful characters in 
    the game. In TTT he has been toned down and most of his borrowed moves are 
    less good than the versions of the characters where they officially belong 
    to. His arsenal consists mainly of:
    Kazuya's punching strings
    Wangs powermoves and throw
    Baek and Lee's kicks
    Bruce's elbows
    Armor Kings aerial attacks
    The big characters throws
    Kunimitsu's stabs
    Anna's FC attacks
    Combining these features, Ogre is a potential force to recon with. Many 
    people consider Ogre sort of slow, while he is actually a pretty fast and 
    powerful character. He has the best sidestep in the game, has some great 
    moves off the crouch and can to lots of damage in a short period of time, 
    and his okizeme is some of the best in the game. But even now in TTT, he has 
    been weakened a lot. Why Namco? Why did you weaken him? He is the God of 
    Fighting ferchrissakes. His main flaws are still his slow pokes and size 
    (kinda inbetween the Jacks and Mishima's size), and NOW his guaranteed 
    followups after a blocked uf+3,4(3) are gone, his WS+2 gutpunch is a lot 
    slower now, his 1,1>2 is not guaranteed anymore, his df,DF+2+4 is escapable 
    now, his damage rating has been watered down, his standing 4 is slower, 
    practically EVERY GOOD MOVE HE HAD HAS BEEN RAPED!!! Why the hell is the 
    great Toshin such a pathetic underdog character now? He has gained only one 
    new move, the SS+4 which is clearly not enough. Ogre can now be overpowered 
    as long as you just stay in his face, so it's very hard to win with him now. 
    You will have to rely heavily on his df+1, uf+4, ws+2 and 1,1>2 to survive, 
    despite that some of his primary moves have been raped so bad (I really hate 
    what namco did too him, but at least I finally realize it). People say Nina 
    had the biggest raping job, but I think Ogre has been raped the most. 
    Because Ogre will most likely lose in poking wars, it's vital to use Ogre 
    attack range to keep the opponent at bay out of jabbing range. If Ogre can 
    utilize his sidestep and crouching game safely without much fear of 
    retaliation he can still give a hard fight. I hope after reading this guide, 
    you'll reconsider using Ogre more, and understand what his game is all 
    So let's this FAQ started, if you have any questions, feedback or comments 
    on my work, my e-mail is renickironfist@hotmail.com, your opinions mean a 
    lot to me, so let me know if you have some wisdom you'd like to share. Have 
    fun with the FAQ...!
    Joystick Layout (facing right) :
        UB   U  UF
          \  |  /         B  - backward
           \ | /          UB - up/backward
      B ---- +  ---- F    U  - upward
           / | \          UF - up/forward
          /  |  \         F  - forward
         DB  D  DF        DF - down/forward
                          D  - downward
                          DB - down/backward
    Buttons:                       Layout:
    1 - left punch                 [1] - [2] - [5]
    2 - right punch  ----------->
    3 - left kick                  [3] - [4]
    4 - right kick
    5 - tag button
    Other terms:
    CD     -  Crouch-dash(f,n,d,df)
    RD     -  Rolldash (d,df,f)
    WS     -  While rising
    FC     -  Full chrouch position
    CH     -  Counter hit
    MC     -  Major Counter
    SS     -  Sidestep
    QCF    -  Quarter circle forward
    QCB    -  Quarter circle backward
    C.O.M  -  Chains of Misery
    (E)WGF -  (Electric)Wind God Fist
    Small letter   - Tap button command/joystick motion
    Capital letter - Hold button command/ joystick motion
    Con: +  - Occurs when button commands/joystick motions have to be
    pressed simultaneously.
    Con: ,  - Occurs when button commands/joystick motions have to be
    pressed before/after each other.
    Con: ~  - Occurs when button commands/joystick motions have to be
    pressed fast before/after each other.
    Con: N  - Neutral motion. There should be no joystick motion for about
    1/2 a second.
    Con: () - If a command is shown between this convention, it means it's
    optional wether or not to pull it off.
    Con: _  - Occurs when there are more options possible after a certain
    Con: >  - Occurs when hits can be delayed.
    Ogre is not a hard character to learn, but it takes some good general 
    knowledge and experience to utilize his popular moves in a proper way. This 
    takes a lot more skill than when you use a character like Law, who is very 
    beginners friendly. Also, he has a limited arsenal compared to other 
    characters in the game. But even considering that most of Ogres moves are 
    somewhat slow, he can get lots of frame advantage when he connects them, 
    which means he can maintain pressure on the opponent quite easily. But the 
    main thing with Ogre is damage. even with some of his popular moves watered 
    down in damage, he can still pack a lot of wallop. With moves such as WS+2 
    it takes a lot of anticipation to connect safely in high level play, just 
    like any other move that leads to big damage. In the end, THAT makes Ogre a 
    pretty hard character to use.
    This section will display analysis on most of Ogres attacks, and jow to 
    utilize them and so on, so you cannot consider it a real movelist. To find 
    great movelists, check out Catlords movelist or http://www.tekken.net, those 
    are the main locations for the good stuff.
    Okay, on the with the move analysis.
    Throws and Specials
    This is one of Ogres two basic frontal throws. This throw is important 
    because it's taggable, making it one of the safest ways to tag-in your 
    partner without getting countered. Once you connect the throw, the opponent 
    is vulnerable grounded for a guaranteed FC+3. This is the most useful of his 
    two basic frontal throws. This throw can be escaped at the start-up with 1. 
    Jack-2. Use-O-meter: 8 outta 10
    The second and least useful of his two basic throws. It has a high piss-off 
    rating since it endures pretty long if you connect it. However the opponent 
    recovers fast once you connected it, making a guaranteed followup 
    impossible. When you expect the opponent to roll away from you afterwards 
    use  d+4,4 or f,f+1+2 for some good damage afterwards. At the start-up of 
    this throw, it can be escape with 2. Kuma. Use-O-meter: 8 outta 10
    1+3/2+4(from the side):
    You can try a sidethrow after a successfull sidestep, or any other situation 
    when the opponents side is vulnerable to you. Against smaller characters 
    like Lei or Ling you may whiff it due to the fact that Ogres SS travels 
    extremely far, so be cautious with them. None of Ogre sidethrows have 
    guaranteed followups that I know of. Use-O-meter: 8 outta 10
    1+3/2+4(on backturned opponent):
    Like all backthrows, Ogres is not escapable. Backthrows can be utilized in 
    those uncommon moments when the opponents back is vulnerable to you. This 
    happens a lot against Devils lasers or other moves that reach up high. Also, 
    you can try a backthrow after a successful sidestep, especially if it's a 
    linear move that travels a good distance, like a shoulder dash. Most of the 
    time it's pretty obvious when you have a good backthrow opportunity. After 
    the bacjthrow is successful a FC+3 afterwards can be followed for extra 
    ground damage. Use-O-meter: 8 outta 10
    This is Ogres only special throw, and it's also his best throw. Once you 
    have connected this throw it sets up some big damage combined.
    But it seems it's escapable now with 1+2 unlike in Tekken3 (unfortunately). 
    Still this throw is best used if you buffer it with your attacks since you 
    are pretty vulnerable when you initiate this throw. Follow it after a WS+2 
    double over stun for example, is a good opportunity to connect it safely. 
    This throw is also not guaranteed anymore after the uf+3,4(3) blockstagger, 
    unfortunately. Still, this is his best throw, and has to be used often. But 
    the escape has watered this throw down a lot, so it's not such a "turtle 
    killer" anymore. Wang Jinrey. Use-O-meter: 9 outta 10
    This basically defines Ogres high attack counter, and it's actually pretty 
    useful when you use it sparingly. There is no animation shown when you 
    initiate this command normally, only when you time it accurately with the 
    opponents high attack or throw, making it sort of a taunt and counter at 
    once. If you can anticipate when the opponent does a high attack or throw 
    attempt and stick this in, you will gain some spacing. It even works well 
    inbetween certain strings with lag time. It's actually pretty cool if you 
    can anticipate a throw attempt fast enough, use the God Stance to counter 
    the opponent without putting up a guessing game for a throw escape, but it 
    needs to be time very accurately right before the opponent connects the 
    throw. The B+1+2 counter also works in backturned position to suprise the 
    opponent before he attacks or throws you from behind. There are two versions 
    of this move: The first animation (on a high punch counter) shows Ogre 
    rapelling a strange shield around the opponent to keep him out of reach and 
    stunned for a brief second. The second (on a high kick counter) shows Ogre 
    glowing and the opponent wil lose a chunk of life when he attacks. This is a 
    very fun move for Ogre and it actually proves useful against characters like 
    Lee or Baek, who have a lot of attacks/strings that start up high. It's 
    pretty hard to connect the god stance since your timing has to be extremely 
    accurate. During the godstance animation, Ogre is invincible and immobilzed 
    temporarely. When the animation is over, Ogre recovers fast enough to block 
    on time. The b+1+2 is pretty cool, and functions as a counter and taunt at 
    the same time. Use-O-meter: 8 outta 10
    This is literally Ogres fastest move. It runs 8frames and when connected it 
    gives you a 9frame advantage, making this his main move to set up Ogres 
    moves off the crouch without much fear of retaliation. Moves like ws+2, 
    FC+3,3,3_N+3, ws+4,4, or a throw are pretty safe because of the framing 
    advantage you've gained, making it the safest move to get into crouch 
    position, where most of Ogres deadliest attacks can be initiated. You can 
    use this as an interrupt set-up move, juggle extension and many other good 
    tactics. Still, like all lowjabs, this hits Special Mid, making it blockable 
    in both standing and crouching positions. Because Ogre hasn't got that much 
    of a poking game, it's important for him to rely on a simple lowjab. Kazuya 
    Mishima. Use-O-meter: 10 outta 10
    This is a very good poke with Ogre, but it hits 10frames, which is slower 
    than the common 8frames jab. But it is a great move for interrupts, ad it 
    traveling distance gives it an extra forward momentum, making it an awesome 
    poke to stay in the opponents face for custom strings and such. When you mix 
    this up with 1,1>2 and with a throw or d+4(4) afterwards, there is a mean 
    tactic surrounding this attack (see MIXING UP) to realize this is a great 
    move in Ogre's arsenal. Kazuya Mishima. Use-O-meter: 10 outta 10.
    A simple 1,2 punch combo is a pretty good set-up for Ogre. When 1 hits the 2 
    is always guaranteed, and you can followup a uf+4 or df+1 without too much 
    fear of getting countered. For a single standing 1, you can press f+1 
    instead for a more damaging version. It's a pretty safe move by itself, even 
    though Ogre's standing jabs are somewhat slow compared to most characters. A 
    good move in combo's or custom strings. Kazuya Mishima. Use-O-meter: 9 outta 
    This is one of Ogres best moves, especially as a counterhit attack after you 
    sidestepped the opponent, but it's not a good attack anymore to use as a 
    minor counter after blocking the opponents attack, since the 3rd punch can 
    be blocked ven when the first two connect (which sucks, cuz the Mishima's 
    still have all three hits guaranteed). The reason why you should use it for 
    MC only is because all three hits ARE guaranteed on CH (see COUNTERING). You 
    can also delay the last mid-hitting punch, which is vital since if the last 
    punch is blocked, the recovery isn't good. In that case use the 1,1 alone if 
    it's blocked, either throw, d+1 or do nothing. If it connects, the delay of 
    this attack makes it easy to follow the rest of the 1,1>2 string. That mixup 
    (more on it in the MIXING UP section) by itself makes this one of Ogres 
    primary moves. Kazuya Mishima. Use-O-meter: 9 outta 10
    This attack is not as good as 1,1>2 but does some good damage and all hits 
    are guaranteed on counterhit. But it all hits high, and the last punch 
    leaves you vulnerable if blocked. This is however, and easy and strong 
    juggle finisher, for some good and easy damage. Kazuya Mishima. Use-O-meter: 
    7 outta 10
    Basically this displays the last 2 hits of the 1,2,2, but it's easier to get 
    countered with this attack. Both punches are guaranteed by impact and both 
    hits combined will do good damage on CH, so I wouldn't say it's a bad move. 
    Good and easy juggle finisher. Kazuya Mishima. Use-O-meter: 8 outta 10
    Another one of Ogres primary attacks. Connect this midhitting elbow attack 
    and you'll get an 8frame advantage, which means you get a GUARANTEED d+1, 
    and that sets you up for a lot of shit, like the ws+2 or the Snake Kicks. 
    Because if that fact, the df+1 is awesome for custom strings and sorts, to 
    keep pressure on a defending opponent. You can follow 1,1>2 afrerwards as 
    well, which is uninterruptable if iniated after a successfull df+1, heck you 
    can even try a throw attempt. This is also a great attack to counter move 
    like Jins b,f+2,1,2_d+2 stun punch combo from small distances as well as a 
    reliable juggle extender. Also it recovers suprisngly quick when blocked. On 
    top of that, this attack is unparryable, unduckable and unreversable. Still 
    you must set this move up since it can be briefly interrupted by standing 
    jabs and such. If you utilize this move correctly you have the ability to 
    kick some ass. Bruce Irvin. Use-O-Meter: 10 outta 10.
    I wish they had put in Bruce's version instead, since that version juggles. 
    Because Ogres version doesn't juggle there is frankly nothing really special 
    about this attack. It is a pretty solid move on standing position pretty 
    good to counter the opponents crouch or as a juggle extension. But the 
    second hit doesn't come fast enough after the first connects, so it can be 
    blocked, and the recovery isn't too good. Not a bad move by itself, but if 
    it was a launcher like Bruce's this move would've been a lot better. Stick 
    with the single df+1. Bruce Irvin. Use-O-meter: 8 outta 10
    This is not a bad move, this uppercut hit's mid,  and the stagger it causes 
    will allow you to gain the spacing needed to tag in your partner with less 
    fear of retaliation. Be sure to use this move is harmony with your fast 
    pokes to connect it safely. On CH, it juggles, so it's a good move to hit 
    the opponent with as he tags in his partner recklessly. I especially like to 
    do this move when I successfull Sidestepped the opponent and counter with a 
    juggle. Also, if you connect this on a big character (every Jack, Kuma, 
    Ganryu, not True Ogre though) it'll cause a lift stun on them which means 
    guaranteed followups. It's con is that it's pretty slow for a regular 
    uppercut. Kazuya Mishima. Use-O-meter: 8 outta 10
    Standing 4:
    In Tekken3 this was the cheapest attack in the game, but in TTT the standing 
    roundhouse has been toned down. It's noticably slower, it;s range has been 
    reduced and it's not guaranteed anymore after the uf+3,4(3) blockstagger, 
    but the damage it still does is too good. This is best used as a juggle 
    extender because of that damage, but you can use it normally as well, but 
    don't blame me if you are called a cheap shot. It can be ducked pretty 
    easily and that leaves you open to get juggles or thrown. Kazuya Mishima. 
    Use-O-meter: 8 outta 10
    The single d+4 is one of Ogres best low hitting pokes, due to it's speed and 
    suprising range. Believe it or not, this reaches 1 and a half character 
    distance. This is a pretty good move to pester the opponent with and eat 
    away some quick chipping damage. Great attack for custom strings and keep 
    away tactics. Lee Chaolan. Use-O-meter: 9 outta 10.
    This move is very important for Ogres standing game. I personally use this 
    alot as and easy combo finisher, but it's also very useful to hit rolling 
    opponents with after a knockdown. Also, if you counter an aerial attack with 
    df+1 (like Kings uf+1+2) this move is guaranteed. It's not exactly a low 
    risk move by itself, since the second kick can still be ducked or parried 
    when the first connect, but both hits ARE guaranteed on a CH though. Also if 
    the first Kick whiffs, some players tend to rush in on you, and if you 
    initiate the second kick, it will cause a knockdown. Pretty solid move. Lee 
    Chaolan. Use-O-meter: 8 outta 10
    This is one of Ogres PRIMARY moves, and people underestimate this as a 
    regular df+4 toekick, but it's actually one of the fastest kicks in the game 
    (12frames), making this his primary poke from a distance. And by impact 
    it'll give you an added 7frame advantage, which means you can interrupt the 
    opponent with this and gain the initiative on your offensive game as well. 
    This move has very fast recovery and has very little risk, and should be 
    used often. Use-O-meter: 9 outta 10
    In my opinion, this is the best hopkick in the game along with Pauls, and 
    Ogres most reliable jugglestarter. It comes out almost instantly, does good 
    damage, great priority, and recovers fast enough to make it suitable as a 
    juggle extender as well. This move is awesome to minor counter your opponent 
    and punish his errors. If you are good enough, you will be able to punish 
    many blocked attacks with a good juggle opportunity. This move is another 
    must for Ogre, prepare to use it a lot. It's best use as a minor counter 
    since you can get punished when the opponent blocks this attack. 
    Use-O-meter: 9 outta 10
    At first glance this move looks useless since it's very slow and lacks the 
    range needed to be an offense treat to the opponent. But when this move is 
    blocked you'll gain 11frames of advantage, and that means un-interruptable 
    shit. It also does pretty good damage. Still apart from that, not much 
    special things about things about this move.  Use-O-meter: 6 outta 10
    This is Ogres safest option off the crouch because of it's great speed, 
    recovery and priority. When the first hit connects, the second is always 
    guaranteed combining good damage. This is a good move to discourage opponent 
    from  to counter your crouching game. This is also a very good attack to 
    interrupt your opponent with since it's speed is awesome, the first hit runs 
    11frames, which is pretty darn quick for a ws-move. Like 1,1>2 is your 
    interrupt of choice from standing position this will do the job from your 
    crouch. You can also pull this off after blocking low attacks, since it 
    somes out a lot faster than ws+2, so it's a good alternative. This is 
    another very important move for Ogre. Lee Choalan. Use-O-meter: 9 outta 10
    Splits kick. Even though d+4,4 is guaranteed once this attack hits on MC, 
    but it comes out incredibly slow, so the risk that you will get thrown or 
    poked out of it is pretty big. I almost never use this move. Kazuya Mishima. 
    Use-O-meter: 6 outta 10.
    Well, I'd say this move can kinda be used the same way as the ws+4,4, but it 
    recovers slower. But unlike the WS+4,4 the first two Infinity kicks 
    afterwards are guaranteed, which puts this move a little on top.
    Also it runs 10frames, which is a little faster than the ws+4,4. When this 
    attack is blocked, leave the infinity kick starter alone, since players will 
    look out to counter it after you pulled the ws+3,3. Still this move does 
    good damage by itself, and if you add the two guaranteed Infinity Kicks 
    (D+3,3) afterwards you'll deplete about 33% of your opponents lifebar away, 
    which is pretty good (but cheap) if you ask me. Lee Chaolan. Use-O-meter: 9 
    outta 10
    Well the infinity kicks stay one of the favorite moves of the average button 
    masher. If you initiate d+3 during the ws+3,3, you can keep mashing 3 (with 
    D, U or Neutral) to do the infinite. I wouldn't use this in high level play, 
    since players will SS to the left and counter you. I recommend using the 
    first 4 hits alone (WS+3,3,D+3,3) since they are all guaranteed once the 
    first hit connects, which is pretty cheap, but useful nonetheless. I 
    personally barely use it. Lee Chaolan. Use-O-meter: 8 outta 10
    The lowhitting Snake Kicks can prove pretty annoying to your opponents. This 
    version is often listed as FC+3,3,3, but that's a false command, you must 
    initiate d+3 fast after the second hit. This version ends with a low ender. 
    This attack and recovers in FC position, so it's pretty decent to utilize 
    the Snake Kicks effectively after ducking certain attacks. Be sure not to 
    get yourself lowparried using this, I recommend setting this move up with a 
    d+1, and sometimes stick with the first two hits alonem since the opponent 
    migh expect the third hit, and might leave him open while crouching or 
    standing. If you mix up the first two hits with juggle and lowhitting 
    version, this can be a potentially effective tactic. The recovery has 
    decreased a bit since Tekken3, but it still isn't too good. It can be used 
    pretty effectively on a grounded opponent as well. Baek Doo San. 
    Use-O-meter: 8 outta 10
    Same as the previous mentioned, but ends with a midhitting kick that 
    juggles. The three hits combined do over 50 points of damage, and the last 
    hit juggles high enough to set up a tag combo. Be sure not to do the full 
    three hits everytime, that might prove in your advantage (see MIXING UP), 
    and mix up the last hit of this move up with the low hitting ender evenly 
    divided. Ogre most damaging combo's are executed from this move. Still, all 
    three kicks come out sort of slow, so it's best not to overuse this attack. 
    Baek Doo San Use-O-meter: 8 outta 10
    I never use this for attacking purposes, simply to get into range if the 
    opponent is at running distance. The safest thing to do is to go in full 
    chrouch position after the final frames of this moves. This move can easily 
    be anticipated, even tho it blockstaggers, people will sidestep it, duck it 
    or counter it, and you will be vulnerable in all cases. I wouldn't recommend 
    using this move much. Bruce Irvin. Use-O-meter: 5 outta 10
    This will hit grounded opponents from a forward dash distance. This move is 
    very useful for okizeme, great to counter those who like to rise quick from 
    a knockdown. Still, don't use on standing opponents since you might get 
    countered up close and fall prey into the opponents set-up tactics. But the 
    f,f,N motion gives it that extra range, making it his main okizeme move. 
    This will hit a grounded opponent, a rolling opponent, a rising opponent, 
    sometimes even opponents who get up with sweeps or anklekick. This is 
    literally his best okizeme attack (see OKIZEME). Baek Doo San. Use-O-meter: 
    9 outta 10.
    This is pretty much Ogres primary offensive weapon. When this hits clean, it 
    causes a double over stun on the opponent, and you and easily follow an uf+4 
    or df,DF+2+4 to set-up some big added damage. When blocked, your best bet is 
    to try a d+1 afterwards since players will often try to throw or jab you in 
    this situation. But this move has been toned down drastically, at first 
    glance, you will already notice this move is a lot slower, which means 
    players can interrupt it or backdash out of range even easier than in 
    Tekken3. Because of this fact, it's even harder to utilize this move. Still 
    the price of connecting this move is too high, so it's still a move you 
    shouldn't leave out, I still rate it high because it's practically his only 
    way to do good damage without any risk. Kazuya Mishima (I wish Ogre had his 
    version). Use-O-meter: 9 outta 10
    This is one of Ogre FC-moves, and the least useful of the three. When 
    connected it causes a brief stagger on the opponent and can set up some fine 
    okizeme, but this move is easily countered, and recovers slow. This is, like 
    other moves from FC-position crouchbufferable.  Anna Williams. Use-O-meter: 
    6 outta 10
    This is one of the better power attacks Ogre has. When you crouchbuffer it 
    with a lowjab, this actually comes out pretty quick, and does great damage 
    on the opponent. When this counters it causes a small stagger on the 
    opponent, and you can get a d+4,4 (i.e.) for free. Pretty good move by 
    itself, be sure to buffer a chicken with it though (see THROWS AND COUNTERS 
    and BUFFERING), against reversal happy players. You can even use this as 
    okizeme on big characters, it's a lot quicker than f,f+1+2. It's only 
    problem is the slow recovery it has when blocked. This attack functions fine 
    as a juggle finisher when crouchbuffered with a d+1, so there is always a 
    way to utilize it. Anna Williams (Blimey, I wish Ogre had that auto-parry 
    built in). Use-O-meter: 8 outta 10
    Another nice addition of Ogres crouch arsenal. Ogre slides forward a low 
    handswipe that kinda juggles like Bryans df+3. Now that I mention it, this 
    move is not used that much differently from Bryans df+3. It comes out fairly 
    quick, hits low, avoids high and -some- mid attacks, is crouchbufferable and 
    can be used for okizeme. Also when you connect this, the f,f+1+2 is 
    guaranteed, and it's untechable strangely enough. It's only weakness is it's 
    recovery time when blocked. This is an awesome attack, but not one to 
    overuse, since good players will try to anticipate and parry it. If you know 
    how and when to utilize this attack, this can be one of Ogres better moves. 
    Anna Williams. Use-O-meter: 9 outta 10
    This is one of Ogres flashier moves in the game. It has a slight start-up, 
    but it reaches very far off and does good damage. Also, this attack juggles 
    on CH, and allows you to do some good damaging combo's, you can even tag in 
    your partner for some cool buddy combo's. A good time to get the counter is 
    when the opponents tags recklessly. Not a bad move to throw out once in a 
    while, be sure to buffer than chicken though. Lee Chaolan. Use-O-meter: 8 
    outta 10
    This is Ogres only new move, which is simply disappointing. They should've 
    at least give him one more new attack, like a Mishima f,f+1+2 headbutt throw 
    would really come in handy. Still this is really not a bad addition to Ogres 
    arsenal, since it hits low, juggles, hits grounded opponents and comes off 
    his huge sidestep. This moves recovery and speed is not exactly fast, but 
    that's actually not such a big problem, since it's best used as a CH move 
    off the sidestep. Only use it when you are certain for impact, since this 
    move can be lowparried fairly easy. Use-O-meter: 8 outta 10
    This is a good move to do on a grounded opponent only, after a juggle or 
    knockdown to add some extra damage, especially against players who constanly 
    get up with sweeps or ankle kicks, or recover crouching. However, this 
    version can not be pulled instantly with uf like Jins version. If the 
    opponent manages to tech away from this attack, you are left vulnerable 
    grounded for okizeme. Kazuya Mishima. Use-O-meter: 7 outta 10
    This move was excellent in T3, it was more dangerous blocked than when
    it hit, since the standing 4, 1,1>2, uf+4 and df,DF+2+4 were all guaranteed 
    after the blockstagger. But the guaranteed followups have been taken out in 
    TTT, unfortunately. Still a pretty good offensive move, not too much risk, 
    but it can be anticipated if you overuse it. The second hit is unblockable 
    when blocked neutral, but when blocked active , the third hit won't come 
    out. Baek Doo San. Use-O-meter: 7 outta 10
    I listed the ub+3 as a single move since it's better as stand alone move 
    than the full ub+3,2. It's a great attack to counter an advancing opponent 
    or when someone tags in. This attack can get you out of sticky situations, 
    and discourage your opponent to take it up close. Jun Kazama. Use-O-meter: 8 
    outta 10.
    I don't care what anyone says, I think this move is useless with the
    tooth fairy part. It's easily counterable, sidestepped and punch parried and 
    has horrible lagtime if you block the tooth fairy upper. The only good thing 
    I have to say about this move is that it's taggable if you juggle with the 
    tooth fairy. In other cases, stay away from it, to use this move is asking 
    to be punished. I recommend using the backflip part only since that's a 
    decent way to counter running opponents, but leave the tooth-fairy part 
    alone. Jun Kazama. Use-O-meter: 5 outta 10
    This is one of Ogres powermoves, what he does is step forward with his arm 
    extended delivering a punch with his palm. This move as extra range because 
    of the little forward step he takes with the punch motion, but during it's 
    mid frames this move is pretty easily countered that way. Ogre can even be 
    thrown during this move. Still it does pretty good damage,  hits mid, and 
    causes a fast knockdown so it's not a really bad move either. Pretty solid 
    attack with some priority, but not really a move to overuse. I use it off a 
    sidestep at times, or as an easy and damaging juggle filler. Not a bad 
    attack, but not exactly low risk either. Wang Jinrey. Use-O-meter: 8 outta 
    Even though this move comes out slow it is one of Ogres best okizeme moves. 
    It's power and reach are awesome, and can catch a rolling opponent pretty 
    easily. It also goes under most high attacks. A good time to use this attack 
    is after a successfull FC,df+2 for guaranteed damage. I recommend using it 
    on ar grounded opponent only as okizeme tool, or as a juggle finisher. Wang 
    Jinrey. Use-O-meter: 8 outta 10
    This is NOT a good move, it can be countered or sidestepped very easily, and 
    because Ogre takes a large jump forward before actually hits the opponent, 
    and you can easily be punished in midair. Stay away from this at all costs. 
    Armor King. Use-O-meter: 4 outta 10
    This move is actually pretty good, since it travels a long distance, does 
    good damage and is a potentially great tool for wake-up games. When this 
    attack is blocked, you'll go right through your opponent, who staggers, 
    allowing a free tag-out. This is a great move to counter a tagging or 
    running opponent with, and Anna is the only character that can reverse this 
    move. It's main weakness is the fact that it can be anticipated from the 
    beginning, and Ogre will be vulnerable if the opponent sidesteps this move. 
    Armor King. 8 outta 10
    This another one of Ogres lesser moves. This move seems to whiff more than 
    it hits, and leaves you vulnerable grounded if you failed to connected. 
    Also, a simple jab will counter Ogre easily while in mid-air, and the damage 
    isn't worth it either. You may want to use this move when the opponent tags 
    in, but there are lots of better options in that case, like a df+2. Armor 
    King. Use-O-meter: 4 outta 10
    This is one of his better okizeme moves, simple because of it's range. 
    Thanks to the f,f,N motion you can even catch an opponent with this before 
    they go off screen after tagging from a knockdown with this slide attack. 
    There are some great okizeme tactics surrounding this move, you can quickly 
    press 3 afterwards for guaranteed ground damage, since you will recover 
    faster from the ground than the opponent. You and catch a rolling opponent 
    with this  but it's hard to time this move to gain the full impact because 
    of the slight start-up. Lee Chaolan. Use-O-meter: 8 outta 10
    Personally I don't think this is an actual unblockable, since the first hit 
    can be blocked and the second can be escaped with a Sidestep(u,N_d,N) or 
    backdash (b,b). This is actually a pretty useful attack, if the opponent 
    fails to escape it since you can follow a free d+4,4 or a d+1 to start a 
    combo. Still, this attack is pretty hard to utilize, and easy to interrupt 
    on close quarters. But this is one of the few moves that's unique to Ogre. 
    Use-O-meter: 8 outta 10
    This is one of Ogres better unblockables. It starts up slow, but once Ogres 
    arm reaches out it's very hard to counter, making this move better from a 
    dashing distance. This move also track extremely well and sometimes even 
    avoids high attacks. When you connect this on big characters, d+4,4 is 
    guaranteed. If you are able to keep the opponent at a small distance this is 
    the perfect attack to use in the particular situation. You can also try this 
    off a sidestep. It's only weakness it that it starts up slow and recovers 
    slow when missed. Kunimitsu. Use-O-meter: 8 outta 10
    This is Ogres best unblockable IMO. It has good range and speed, and is best 
    used for longer range attacks. Great attack in mix-up with his other f,f(N) 
    attacks. Whe you connect this, you can do some guaranteed ground damage 
    afterwards, and on big characters this can set-up a combo. This is also a 
    good striking move when the opponent backdashes a lot when you are in a 
    range, or when they rise from a knockdown or crouch. Like with b+2 a pretty 
    useful attack to try after a successfull sidestep as well. Still you have to 
    watch out not to end up getting countered pulling this move, don't be 
    reckless with it. Kunimitsu. Use-O-meter: 8 outta 10
    This unblockable tracks very well, but the start up is very slow and you are 
    easily countered during the opening frames. But once the "charge up" is 
    done, the rest of this unblockable is very fast. But I still wouldn't use it 
    since it takes forever for this move to come out. The damage really sucks 
    for such a slow start-up, so this move is not really worth it. Anna 
    Williams. Use-O-meter: 3 outta 10
    Looks pretty flashy but it is a useless attack, because you are completely 
    vulnerable when executing it. That's reason alone is enough for me to rate 
    this unblockable the lowest of all of Ogres attacks. Stay away from this 
    unless you have a knack for showing off. Armor King. Use-O-meter: 2 outta 
    This is not really a bad attack actually, since Ogre leans backward a bit at 
    the startup, giving it an extra evasive momentum. The charge up of this move 
    is faster than many other unblockables, but still slow enough to be 
    vulnerable. If this unblockable was cancellable like Hwoarang and Baeks, ths 
    move would've been a lot better. Stil, the damage and range are both good. 
    This is perhaps good as desperation move when you are low on health. Other 
    than that I don't see that much use in it. Bruce Irvin. Use-O-meter: 6 outta 
    This attack can instantly kill your opponent when connected, but the only 
    safe chance to do so is when your competition is having a bathroom break. 
    This move is way to slow, and way too risky to use in high level play. Wang 
    Jinrey. Use-O-meter: 3 outta 10
    Blocking is something you cannot leave out in your basic Tekken game. If you 
    cannot block, you might as well stop playing Tekken. Even if you have an 
    offensive style of play, there are always situations where your defense has 
    to be organised, and blocking is the basis of it all. Wether it's for high 
    level play or basic strats, blocking is something in which you have to 
    involve your Tekken game in constantly. There are two types of blocking: 
    Neutral Guard and Active Guard
    - Neutral Guard: If you keep your joystick into Neutral state, you will 
    automatically block high, mid and special mid level attacks. But you have to 
    use Active Guard to block low level attacks (hold DB). This isn't really 
    reliable since the Neutral guard will prove ineffective against set-ups 
    (i.e. a shin kick connected on you, followed by fast pokes, which will hit 
    you if you don't use active guard), guardbreaking moves, certain attack 
    strings that are very varied in hit ranges (like tenstrings), which are very 
    commonly used in high level play.
    - Active Guard: This is the most common of blocking types. This is done by 
    holding the joystick back (standing) or downbackward (ducking) away from the 
    opponent timed with their attack. The Active block is the blocking method 
    that's used in high level play. Wether it's tenstrings, set-ups, 
    customstrings, low hitting moves, this is the most reliable way of 
    A good way to learn how to block the popular attacks and strings in the game 
    is to learn the hit ranges. The hit ranges indicate how you have to block 
    certain attacks, wether it's blocking or standing, or wether you can duck or 
    jump over certain attacks or not.  In order to have an organised defense, 
    you must know the hit ranges of each attack in Tekken Tag Tournament (it's a 
    long learning curve, but if you wanna learn how to play, the basic parts 
    must be known first). There are four different types of hit ranges: high, 
    mid, special mid and low level attacks.
    - High level attacks: Pretty much explains by itself actually. High attacks 
    are the only attacks that can be ducked (along with throws), and can only be 
    blocked standing. If you learn how to anticipate the popular high hitting 
    moves your opponent, and learn how to duck and counter them, you are one 
    step in the right directions. Also, learn the parts of popular strings that 
    hit high is very recommendable (DUH). Examples: Standing jabs, 4's, Mach 
    Punch, Jin's WGF/EWGF
    - Mid level attacks: Most of the attacks in Tekken Tag Tournament hit mid.  
    This means they can only be blocked standing, and cannot be ducked. 
    Unfortunately, most of the priority moves that are mid hitting attacks. You 
    have to be aware of overheads when ever you chrouch or when you try a WS 
    move or lowjab, since many will try to punish your chrouch. The best way to 
    deal with this is be familiar with blocking points of certain 
    attacks/strings, or find a something that's effective as an interrupt like a 
    d+1, which will beat almost anything.
    Examples: df uppercuts, Deathfists, toekicks, hopkicks
    - Special Mid level attacks: This is the least common of hitranges. Special 
    mid attacks will hit a chrouching or standing opponent, but can also be 
    blocked both standing and chrouching. Special mid attacks can be lowparried 
    and reversed. The most common special mid attacks are the basic ducking jabs 
    (d+1/d+2). Another well known example is Kazuya's Wing God Fist.
    - Low Attacks: The low attacks are pretty obvious as well since they can 
    only be blocked ducking. These are IHMO the most useful of hit ranges, 
    simply because it proves neutral guard non-effective, but also if you mix up 
    your hit ranges very balancing the low attack are the most eaten of all hit 
    ranges. Examples: Shin kicks, Yoshi's d,DF+3 , Kings AliKicks, Lei's db+4.
    Blocking is IMO the most important thing you have to do when playing. If you 
    are unfamiliar with blocking and hitranges, learn or don't play. Know how to 
    block popular strings, and know which moves are punishable when you block 
    them. Learn to recognise the hitrangesand blocking points in combat, no 
    matter how offensive some players might be, blocking is always an important 
    aspect to do among your other basic skills.
    Okizeme is basically doing as much damage as possible on a grounded (or when 
    recovering from the ground) opponent. This is very much used as high level 
    play, but it's often called cheap since the opponent is defenseless if they 
    get pummeled on the ground, but isn't that the same with juggles? Ogre has 
    some of the best okizeme in the game, maybe Xiaoyu and True Ogre are a 
    little better, but Ogre certainly is one of the oki-greats. He has lots of 
    attacks that hits grounded opponent and attacks that reach far or close 
    enough to catch a grounded/recovering opponent off guard. Ogre has a lot 
    more advanced okizeme game than most characters because of that. The 
    important thing you have to remember about okizeme is to know which move you 
    have to hit the grounded opponent with at what time, depending how the 
    opponent recovers.
    - Good moves that set-up okizeme:
    Basic throws/f+2/juggles/f,f,N+2/b+2/SS+4/1,1>2/f,f,N+3+4/f+1+4
    - Ogres okizeme arsenal:
    - If they stay grounded:
    When the opponent stays grounded after a knockdown, Ogres has too many 
    options that work well. From close range, the d+3 is more than enough to do 
    the trick, when you have good timing, you can even try d~DB+4. From longer 
    range f,f,N+4 and f,f+1+2 are his best two options, you and also try 4~3 
    after a combo, but if the opponent avoids it you will be in a disadvantage.
    - When they roll:
    Especially at intermediate level players will try to roll out of range after 
    a juggle or throw. Most okizeme moves, if not all will hit an opponent in 
    this state. At close range, you can use d+4,4 when the opponent rolls, and 
    it sets up even more damage. At long range, you can practically have a lot 
    of options: f,f,N+4 is always good, same with f,f+1+2, the FC,f+2 takes off 
    great damage and has great reach, FC,df+2 works decent at dashing distance 
    and the f,f,N+3+4 has even more distance. Plenty of options as you see. Whe 
    the opponent constantly rolls away and you use this okizeme properly he will 
    probably never recover, especially is he uses a big character.
    - When they stand up regularly (recover standing):
    His f,f,N+4 is Ogres most versatile okizeme tool, and should be used here as 
    well. You will have to anticipate and time well. The f,f,N+2 is also 
    suprisingly good for this situation and sets up a whole new okizeme 
    opportunity. Because both moves start with f,f,N this can be quite a good 
    okizeme tactic that will add even more confusion. With these moves, you must 
    initiate the f,f,N motion IMMEDIATELY after the knockdown, to use them as 
    okizeme effectively. The FC,f+2 is another great option from long range, it 
    does the CH damage (which is a lot), and delivers a powerful knockdown, and 
    allows you more okizeme afterwards. Many players tend to block standing afer 
    they rise, and that's the FC,df+2 is another good option that tends to 
    connect pretty often. The f+1+4 will also hit strangely, but it requires 
    some good anticipation, if you guess wrong, you might end up vulnerable 
    - When they recover crouching:
    Yes, AGAIN f,f,N+4 is a very good option from a distance. It's hard to 
    anticipate when the opponent recovers crouching, but regardless of what 
    happens, the f,f,N+4 is aways the safest and will hit on many occasions. 
    Other options are FC,f+2 for big damage, you can also go for 4~3, but it's 
    not really safe, or f+1+4, for the same reason as when you use it on an 
    opponent who recovers standing.
    - When they recover with an ankle kick (d+4) or sweep(3):
    This is the best time for the 4~3, since it'll go over the ankle kick or 
    sweep. The f,f,N+4 will hit at this occasion someties, but 4~3 is the best 
    option. I have met some players who constantly get up with d+4, and I once 
    hit 4~3 3 times in one match.
    - When they tag recover:
    When you knock the opponent down who has little life left, you will almost 
    certainly expect him to tag recover. The f,f,N+3+4 has the range to catch an 
    opponent before they roll of screen, but you have to initiate the slide as 
    fast as possible once you've knocked down, since the opponent might 
    tagrecover on time before f,f,N+3+4. You have to kinda plan ahead on this 
    one, but it's very useful if you think rationally, and it's well worth it.
    - When they techroll:
    To be perfectly honest I haven't found a good attack with Ogre to punish 
    techrollers, like I do with Bryan's f,f-moves. You need to have an attack 
    that tracks well, the f,f,N+2 is still Ogres most effective option.
    How to utilize okizeme
    To use okizeme effectively you have to be familiar with your ATTACK RANGE. 
    Estimate which attacks reach the distance the opponent's at to use okizeme 
    with great effect. To utilize okizeme, it's also extremely vital to forward 
    dash (f,f) a lot if you are out of range, to be quick enough to get within 
    range to do more ground damage. That's why okizeme moves like f,f,N+4 and 
    f,f+1+2 are so effective for Ogres okizeme game, because they come off a f,f 
    motion to increase it's reach, and that's one of the important reasons why 
    Ogre has the best okizeme in the game. I don't know many other characters 
    that have okizeme moves off a forward dash. It's just too good. Another 
    important thing about okizeme is ANTICIPATION. After a successfull 
    knockdown, you must anticipate how the opponent will recover, and at the 
    same time you must execute the appropriate okizeme quickly that's suited to 
    punish the way the opponent recovers from the ground. Okizeme is an advanced 
    tactic that should be practiced as much as juggles, poking or whatever else, 
    since it's used extensively in high level play. Be sure to know Ogres 
    okizeme game, and know what attacks are best to punish the opponents 
    recovery, and it can be used with great effect to use as yet another way to 
    eat away chunks of the opponents lifebar, oki doki?
    The essence of a well timed sidestep has been more and more of a value in 
    Tekken, simply because a successfull sidestep sets you up for free hits. 
    Sidestepping is done by pressing u,N (to the left) d,N (to the right). Ogre 
    especially has to rely on his SS, since he has the best sidestep in game due 
    to the long distance it travels. That’s why the sidestep is one of the most 
    important ways to counter the opponent. He has gained a specific move off 
    his sidestep, the SS+4, which hits low and juggles, but it isn’t always 
    reliable. That’s why you must use other attacks that can be used after a 
    Sidestep to keep your game varied.
    How to utilize the sidestep
    Sidestepping effective will takes two important things: Anticipation and 
    timing. You need to anticipate your opponents attack, and time exactly right 
    so you won't get hit by it and avoid it safely. When the opponents attack is 
    somewhat slow, you might want to sidestep during the midframes of the 
    attack, when the attack is faster, you might want to time your sidestep 
    during the opening frames, it all takes precision in timing and 
    anticipation, but not as for timing, it doesn't always depend on how fast or 
    slow moves come out, but also in what distance the opponents attack is 
    executed from you. If a move is executed up close, you might want to time 
    your sidestep earlier than when the attack comes from a dashing distance for 
    example. Sidestepping your opponent to it's full effectiveness is best used 
    against moves that travel in a straight line i.e. Thunder Godfists, Kings 
    f,f+1+2, Laws f+2~1, Heihachi's f,n,d,df+3, Julia/Michelles Bow& Arrow 
    mixups, Armor Kings f+1+4, Jins b,f+2,1,2_d+2, Nina's uf+4,3,4 and the list 
    goes on and on. You'll most likely end to their back or side, to do a 
    SideStep-move, but they aren't really safe moves, so I'd recommended to look 
    for some alternatives as well.  Ogres sidestep travels extremely far, he has 
    the ability to end up at an opponent back SS-ing only twice. You can cancel 
    any sidestep holding the joystick away allowing you to block safely against 
    an opponent within range. If you SideStep the opponent, you'll either end up 
    at their back or at their sides, and to minor counter their whiffed attack, 
    here are some recommendable moves (apart from the sidestep moves) to do in 
    these positions:
    - At the opponents side:
    If you end up at the opponents side after a successfull SS there are 
    numberous attacks you can do. The 1,1>2 seems obvious  but he last punch is 
    blocked often leaving you open to attack. My fav is df+2, if you counter 
    with it, you can do a juggle. Other options are SS+4, d+4,4, f+2, or a fast 
    unblockable. Sidethrowing is also decent, but I recommend that on big 
    characters only since they tend to whiff on smaller characters.
    - At the opponents back:
    This happens a lot against moves that travel longer distances. Good move off 
    your sidestep in these situations is f+2, which does good damage and travels 
    far enough. A simple df+4 will do the trick if the opponents recovery is 
    faster, the Hunting Hawk (uf+3,4,3) is actually pretty good as well due to 
    it’s traveling distance. If the opponent is vulnerable at closer range 
    1,1>2, uf+4, df+2 or a backthrow will do the trick just fine. It all depends 
    on how long the opponent recovers from the attack you sidestep, and at what 
    distance you end up.
    General Tips on Sidestepping
    - If you have trouble sidestepping attacks and feel you time right, an easy 
    way to sidestep is this: Sidestep left limb attacks to the left, and right 
    limb attacks to the right. It seems to work much better, and will grant you 
    a lot more succestful sidesteps, if you know when and how to use the 
    sidestep effectively.
    - Sidestepping moves that travel horizontal (Bruce's f,f+3, Pauls 
    d+4,2(first hit), Lei's db+4, Kuma's f+1+2) is a bad idea.
    - Don’t try to sidestep if you are too close to the opponent since you’ll be 
    jabbed during the neutral motion. always stay and least a half a character 
    distance to sidestep safely.
    TTT is in my opinion more balanced in characters than in T3, every character 
    has the ability to kick ass on any other character, and the tag feature 
    makes that an even more open theory.. Characters that were overpowered in T3 
    have been toned down (Nina, Law, Paul and Ogre) and characters that were 
    weaker have been made a lot stronger (Julia, Kuma, Hwoarang and GunJack). 
    Ogre, as said before has been toned down a bit, he is less damageing, a bit 
    slower and most of his moves lost priority. But I believe any character in 
    this game can hold on his own, even Roger and Jun can be quite good (what 
    some people underestimate). And Ogre is no different despite his weaknesses. 
    In this section I will give you some strats what to do to fight other 
    characters in the game with Ogre.
    (Side note: I'm NOT going to do the detailed strategy against other 
    characters anymore like in my Bryan FAQ, since I think this section would 
    otherwise take far too much space of the rest of this guide. That's why I'll 
    give a more simple minded explanation on how to beat each character instead 
    of telling what to do against each move the character you are up against 
    has. That simply consumes too much time.)
    Vs. Jin
    Attacks to watch out for:
    - Mostly played: offensive
    - f,n,d~DF+2(EWGF)/b+4/ws+2/1,1>2/f,f+1+2
    It's very hard to beat Jin with Ogre since he has so many useful attacks and 
    very few weaknesses. Most players will stay offensive on you and if you stay 
    too defensive they'll try and throw you with f,f+1+2. It's best to try and 
    attack cautiously, don't make any reckless errors since Jin can punish 
    everything you whiff with an EWGF. Use your uf+4 to counter whiffed godfists 
    or other blocked recovery and punish with a juggle. Also try to poke him a 
    lot, so set up a throw or ws+2. Jin has gained a new b+4, which causes a 
    long stun when players connect it. I recommend relying on your fast attacks 
    and throws a lot since many of Ogres other attacks are too risky, use your 
    ws+2 and uf+4 occasionally as well. Your best bet is to interrupt his 
    attacks, and hope for a juggle opportunity as soon as possible to get a 
    headstart in damage. Don't let him WS+2 or EWGF you at all costs, if that 
    happens, you are more or less screwed.
    - Difficulty: Hard.
    VS. Hwoarang
    - Mostly played: offensive~defensive (AKA hit-and-run tactics)
    - Attacks to watch out for: df+4-LFF/RFL,4/d+3,4,4/df+3,4/f+4~4-RFF/f,f+2
    Hwoarang has been strengthened a bit, and he relies a lot on his RFL now, 
    more than his LFL. He will often try to use fast pokes to gain the framing 
    needed to get in his RFL(f,N+4), minimizing fear of retaliation. They will 
    often try to double sidestep (Poking->RFL->Dbl SS) afterwards hoping to 
    counter you with RFL,b+3 or RFL,4 which both set up a combo. That's why you 
    shouldn't rush in on Hwoarang while he's in his Flamingo faints, he'll 
    counter with the previous mentioned or jabs out of his FL stance to 
    interrupt you. To avoid getting pestered by his annoying hit-and-run tactic, 
    you must try to counter him as soon as possible and stay in his face with 
    custom strings and an occasional jugglestarter or throw to keep him from 
    using his stances. If you have an organised offense you should have him 
    nailed pretty fast.
    - Difficulty: Medium.
    Vs. King
    - Mostly played: defensively
    - Attacks to watch out for: Throws/2,1/d+1~N+2/df+3/f+4/Kick Reversal
    The first thing you must know against a King player is to know all the 
    breakouts of his throws and multi's, because King is undeniable grappling 
    oriented. Stay out of throw range and punish all whiffed throws with an uf+4 
    juggle. But apart from his throws also watch out for his mean pokes. The 2,1 
    has lost priority since T3, all the guaranteed followups are gone. He can 
    still chain his throws afterwards fairly quick, so still it's a move to be 
    aware of. He also has an unchickenable kick reversal, so don't go 
    predictable on kick-based moves. King players love to use his f+4 kick, 
    which does great damage by itself and has guaranteed followups when it 
    counters, but because the f+4 and most of his throws are duckable, King 
    isn't much of a treat for your crouching game, so executing from a crouch is 
    not a bad idea. Punish him through interrupts and with d+1's, or an 
    occasional ws+2 attempt is not too risky either, and you should be okay.
    - Difficulty: Medium
    Vs. Bruce
    - Mostly played: offensively
    - Attacks to watch out for: df+2/1,2,4_d+4/3,2,1
    Bruce is a cheap and easy character to learn, with lots of quick and 
    damaging attacks. Players like to pester you with 1,2,4_d+4, which are quick 
    and damaging, and have insane priority, since they start with Bruce's left 
    jab, which runs 8frames, which beats anything you can throw at him from a 
    standing position. Because the 1,2-mixups starts up so fast, Bruce can 
    counter you without a sweat with these strings, and on top of that Bruce has 
    some of the most damaging jabs in the game. These string alone will give 
    Ogre a very hard fight. Bruce can also counter you with 3,2,1, which one of 
    the best strings in the game, since it juggles on CH and it's priority and 
    quickness is nearly unmatched. He also has the df+2, a fast elbow attack 
    which juggles up high with damaging results, and Bruce can easily stick it 
    as bend-in move with his pokes and in custom strings. Bruce can kill Ogre 
    just by using these three attacks. Your best bet is to counter him early on 
    and stay offensive with custom strings and throws to do as much damage as 
    possible, since he hasn't got many defensive oriented attacks. Punish every 
    blocked recovery attack with an uf+4 juggle without mercy. Keep him out of 
    jabbing range when he uses the 1,2-mixups a lot, if he carries on his string 
    mixup he will be left more vulnerable if he whiffs the first one or two 
    hits, allowing you to interrupt him. Use your popular attacks cautiously, 
    and hope you will get a headstart in damage.
    - Difficulty: Hard
    Vs. Roger/Alex
    - Mostly played: offensively
    - Attacks to watch out for: df+1/2,1/standing 1/f,N+1/throws
    Roger is the most underrated character in the game, his main weakness is his 
    lack of range which gives him trouble fighting other characters. But a good 
    Roger can give Ogre a really hard fight actually. Roger players like to poke 
    you up close with 2,1 and standing 1, which he can link to his throws very 
    easily (his throws cannot be ducked once the 2,1 connect so you have no 
    choice but to escape them). His standing 1 is one of the fastest jabs in the 
    game and when he counters you with it, the d+1~N+2 is guaranteed. Because he 
    lacks the range and is forced to take it up close, there ares ome good 
    tactics to dispose of him more easily. You can keep him at bay with df+4 or 
    ws+4,4 to keep him out of range, and when he whiffs an attack, quickly 
    punish with an uf+4. If you keep Roger from utilizing his close quarter 
    attacks, you should overwhelm him without too much problems.
    - Difficulty: Easy
    Vs. Baek
    - Mostly played: offensive~defensively (AKA hit-and-run style)
    - Attacks to watch out for: b+2/f,f+2/d+4,3,3,d+3/f+4>3/punch parry/3,4>3
    Bay must not be seen as an easy opponent using Ogre. He can delay a lot of 
    his kicking strings to discourage you to attack him. Players will try to 
    bait you into a counterhit with Baeks flamingo delayals. His f+4>3 for 
    example, is obviously one of his best moves,  Baek players will delay the 
    second hit after connecting the first to bait you into the big CH stun. If 
    you block the first hit the second hit wil most likely be cancelled, and 
    Baek can triple SS around you when they cancel it into flamingo faints to 
    juggle or throw you, so there is always an option surrounding the f+4>3. 
    Baeks main weakness that a lot of his kick strings start up high, so if you 
    duck a lot you should be able to hurt him with your d+1 ,FC,df+2 into 
    f,f+1+2 or WS+2. Baek doesn’t have any good mid attack to stop a d+1 attempt 
    up close to set-up your crouching game. You should be able to hold him off 
    if you execute from your crouch and sidestep properly.
    - Difficulty: Easy
    Vs. Julia
    - Mostly played: offensively (off the counter mostly)
    - Attacks to watch out for: 1~1,1/QCB,f+2(Mad Axes)/4,4/FC,df+2
    Julia is the hardest character you’ll face with Ogre IMO. Her 1~1,1 start-up 
    with her 8frame jab,  and the juggle is guaranteed if she counters you with 
    it, and this is not that hard for her since it beats every move you have 
    from your standing game, and that’s a big disadavantage for you. If you try 
    to attack and do damage she will look out to counter you with 1~1,1, but if 
    you turtle, Julia will find ways to buffer into Mad Axes (escape: 1+2) to do 
    damage instead, so it’s practically impossible to fight Julia with Ogre 
    without any risks. Her two weaknesses are the recoverytime of some of her 
    powerattacks, and many of her attacks are not that hard to sidestep. Use the 
    uf+4 whenever she misses or recovers from her attack, you can also try to 
    sidestep some of her popular strings if she executes them from a longer 
    distance. Don’t try to fight her up close, instead use df+4 to counter her 
    when she is within jab range or throwing range, you have a range advantage 
    over her and you should take advantage of that. My best advice is to just 
    tag away when you are safe, since a good Julia is almost unbeatable with 
    - Difficulty: Hard
    Vs. Bryan
    - Mostly played: offensively (off counters)
    - Attacks to watch out for: 
    Bryan can be a pretty hard character to defeat since he has lots of powerful 
    moves and great mixups. Be sure not to use attacks that recover slow since 
    he can minor counter with his Mach Punch (f,f+2) pretty easily. His awesome 
    mixup ability can be hard to defend against and you must not attack 
    recklessly, since one counter with ws+3 is all Bryan needs to deplete half 
    your lifebar if you don’t watch out. Also be aware of his punchparry with 
    guaranteed followups. He is very dangerous from the crouch like you, players 
    can lowjab you and follow a WS-move or Cains of Misery (escape: 1+2) throw. 
    The best way to fight Bryan is to execute from your sidestep and crouch. Be 
    sure to use df+1 a lot, since Bryan can’t reverse it and it will set-up a 
    free d+1, so you can execute from your crouch with less risk to get 
    countered by a juggle. Be sure to poke a lot from long range as well, df+4 
    and ws+3,3 beats alost every kick attack he has. Don’t be afraid to punish 
    Bryans recovery with uf+4, and try to counter his popular moves and you 
    should overwhelm him in a tough battle.
    - Difficulty: Medium
    Tagging is the new feature in TTT that has made it unique from it's 
    predecessors. It allows you to choose two characters, with whom you can 
    switch between during level gameplay. With Tekken already having the deep 
    gameplay, tagging will give it a even larger push. With tagging, there are 
    so many possibilties, I doubt everyone who loves Tekken will find out 
    EVERYTHING about this game, I mean, hey, I'm sure we haven't found every 
    combo possible in T3 alone, most maybe, but certainly not all, and I'm sure 
    we will have a harder exploration time with TTT which makes it even more 
    fun. The whole gameplay scene in Tekken is opened up a lot because of this 
    one feature: Tagging.
    Tagging ingeneral
    The most obvious reason to use the tag button is to switch between your two 
    characters, but tagging can also be used in lots of other ways. A good 
    example is to recover from the ground. If you press the tag button once 
    knocked down, you can recover while pressing the tag button to prevent 
    getting okizeme-ed, you'll roll or walk off screen as you tag in your 
    partner. The tag recover can be an advantage or disadvantage, if you tag 
    recover after you are juggled or whatever, the opponent can just wait to 
    counter your partner once he tags in instead of trying to okizeme you. Still 
    other than that you must only tag recovery against those who try to okizeme 
    you. The tagbutton is a great manuever as well to escape stuns like 
    Hwoarangs RFL,4(CH) and Bryans WS+3, to spare you from eating a high damage 
    combo. The tag-escape I still find sucky overall, matches are less 
    entertaining because of the tag-escape, there's less chance of landing some 
    madd combo with Bryan off his WS+3(ch) as a crowd-pleaser or so to be said 
    (including me).
    Tag throwing
    Another option with the tag button in TTT is the tag throw. This allows you 
    to throw your opponent with both your characters, with some savage-ass 
    results. Tag throwing can be done pressing the tag nutton once you connected 
    your throw. Ogre can tag with his 1+3 throw but there are no team specific 
    buddy throws that I know of. A buddy throw is also one of the safer ways to 
    tag in your partner. What I don't like about TTT is the fact that if one of 
    your characters is dead, you've lost! C'mon Namco, what's the point here! 
    The matches are less fun then, are less long and less entertaining. This 
    simply disappoints me. During all the previews on TTT, I was thinking about 
    how cool it would be to beat both your opponents characters while you are 
    only using one. That
    would be so humiliating, hehe.
    Tag Combo’s
    Tagging also allows you to combo with your tag-partner, allowing a 
    tag-combo. The following of Ogres moves are taggable, thus making it 
    possible to tag combo off it: the d,DB+4(ch), D+3,3,N+3 and the ub+3,2. None 
    of these tag starters are low risk, which sucks, so Ogre has to rely heavily 
    tagging his tag partner in via tag throws. His ub+3,2 tag starter is far 
    from being good, and even though the d~DB+4 starter  looks flashy it’s hard 
    to get a CH with it in high level play. I’d say the Snake Kicks are the best 
    option to start a combo, you can do some of the most damaging combinations 
    off it. But even that option is not low risk. I’d say use your tag-partner 
    to start a tag combo and use Ogre to finish them.
    Tag Cancelling
    You can confuse the opponent by canclling while you tag out, with a tag 
    cancel. Tag cancelling is done by pressing Up/Backward right after you tag 
    (5~U/B) and will cancel your character from tagging out for your partner. 
    The best way to use the tag cancel is when you're under pressure with custom 
    strings and pokes. Remember that it can be vital to cancel your tag-recovery 
    from a knockdown. This will allow you to keep using Ogre AND you'll gain 
    some spacing.
    General Tagging Tips
    Here are some general tips you need to know when using the tag feature 
    - Always tag away when low on health, you will gain it back slowly while you 
    are fighting with your other character.
    - Be sure that if you want to tag your partner in, you have got to make sure 
    the opponent is knocked down or immobilized in some way, since your partner 
    is very vulnerable when he/she tags in to get juggled or thrown. With a 
    knockdown or stun, you can tag in your partner more safely as the opponent 
    recovers. The best way is via a tag combo or tag throw.
    - Be sure to counter everytime when the opponent tags in recklessly, either 
    a juggle or throw, or a fast knockdown.
    - Because Ogre doesn’t have many good opions to tag his partner in, it’s 
    best to pick your partner FIRST before you pick Ogre, so you can tag more 
    easily as your partner starts minimizing the chance to get into trouble 
    early in the match.
    - There is no netsu powerup when Ogre’s on the team.
    - It's a good idea to tag everytime when you've got around 50points of 
    damage left (with both characters) everytime to stay longer in the match. 
    Example: You start with Ogre and Bryan against a Julia and Wang player, and 
    your Ogre gets hit by the opponents Wangs juggle which does around 50 points 
    of damage. You use a 1+3 and tag in Bryan fot a tag-throw. Now your Bryan 
    has full health and Wang lost around 30points, which puts you in advantage 
    in that situation. Wang cannot tag since he may be afraid your Bryan will 
    counter his Julia with a b+1 juggle, so if you manage to hurt Wang some 
    more, lets say a f+4(ch)f,f+2, his life will be around 46points of damage 
    and by that time, your Ogre might be fully healed to 100points due to the 
    health recovery the tagged out partner gains to finish the job. What I'm 
    trying to say is, if you use the tag feature and health recovery in your 
    advantage if you think rational, you might win without comparing how strong 
    yours and the opponents characters are against each other, but your largest 
    weapon in Tekken is not always your skill or knowledge, but the most obvious 
    thing you can imagine: THINKING. Damn straight. Your state of mind is your 
    largest weapon, even greater than your knowledge or skill, I believe that if 
    you know how to deal with ANY situation, in ANY game, THINKING is your best 
    Tag partners
    Okay, a lot of people are gonna hate me when I say this but I still am true 
    to my point: Try other teams than just Jin/Heihachi! Just because Jin can do 
    the Possession then, that doesn't mean everyone suddenly has to pick this 
    particular team!? I've seen so many, TOO many Jin/Heihachi's in the arcades 
    I've visited, it gets me all stressed out. I know it's a great team and all, 
    but please guys, face it, there are more than 30 characters in the entire 
    game and you only use one team? C'mon, experiment! Isn't it boring to see 
    the same styles over and over (Jin....yaaaawwwwwnnnn), while you have very 
    good other combinations? I hope even the below average players will start to 
    explore more characters than just two or three, there are some deadly other 
    combinations of characters out there whose styles will gel together well, 
    not just Jin and Heihachi everytime. Just experiment, explore, and look for 
    more good combinations that suit your playstyle well, I just hope the 
    Mishima's won't get the trademark of being overly picked like Ryu, Ken and 
    Akuma in the SF series. Anywayz, back to my point. Ogre is the character I'm 
    writing about, so I have to change the Sub-J. You have to find characters  
    that play very well with Ogre. Here are good tips of picking a good team:
    - It's handy to pick a partner that doesn't have the weaknesses Ogre has. 
    Example: Ogre lacks fast poking attacks attacks, so find a character who has 
    very good poking ability.
    - Use a partner that suits your gamestyle.
    - Pick a partner who is played in a completely different way than Ogre to 
    force the opponent to play a different style against each character, 
    sometimes this affects their strategy. Some strategies that work well 
    against Ogre but not against your partner, which could be an advantage to 
    - Have fun, experiment and be a good sport, even if you don't have good day 
    and play like shit.
    Teams recommended with Ogre
    - Ogre/Bryan:
    This is still my main team, and I still think this is one of the better 
    teams. Bryan has the pokes, jugglestarters, mixups to back Ogre up, and 
    Ogres backs up Bryans lack of low attacks, and his df+1 is quite better than 
    Bryans df+2 (I wish Bryan had Ogres elbow, but his df+2 is still awesome 
    though) because the d+1 is guaranteed afterwards. Both characters have a 
    great WS game, Ogre with his WS+2 and Bryan with his WS+3. Both characters 
    can be very damaging and have a good offensive game, but Ogre doesn’t have a 
    good move of the forward dash to punish the opponents recovery like Bryan 
    has in his f,f+2. Both characters back each other up pretty well but the 
    main weakness they both have is that they only have one special throw, and 
    that’s only two special throws combined. But for the rest, this team suits 
    my playstyle a lot, cuz myself as a player likes to sway, crouch and 
    sidestep a lot. If you like a mobile styled game, this team is 
    recommendable. If you want to find more Bryan, you can check out my Bryan 
    FAQ, which is also released. Team rating: ****
    - Ogre/True Ogre:
    If you like Ogre this is your team of choice. True Ogre plays almost the 
    same as Ogre, but with a few added moves. But True Ogres main flaw is his 
    size which leaves him very vulnerable grounded and when he sidesteps unlike 
    Ogre. His advantage is that his range is far better than Ogres, his ws+2 is 
    a lot better this way, since players’ll have more trouble backdashing out of 
    range. He can also do followups after df,DF+2+4 more easiliy due to his 
    attacks range. True Ogre can also reverse Low, Mid and Special Mid punches 
    with a Man-Eater(Kuma)throw, timing DF with the opponents attack, but can be 
    escaped like a throw with 1+2. Despite the fact that they are very similair, 
    they have different strengths and weaknesses, and that’s why they have to be 
    played a little differently from each other. I just wish Ogre could morph in 
    True Ogre like Kazuya can morph in Devil when you press the tag button. Like 
    Ogre, True Ogre doesn’t have reliable taggable moves, and that’s why this 
    team is not good enough to beat a good Jin/Heihachi or Julia/Michelles. Team 
    rating: **
    - Ogre/Bruce:
    This must be one of the cheapest teams in the game. Bruce is a very good 
    partner for Ogre, since he has damaging attacks, a whole shitload of 
    taggable moves and great quickness. His jabs are extremely fast and 
    damaging, and must be uses a lot. His 1,2 starts up 8frames, and he has tons 
    of options to link afterwards, 1,2,4 the 1,2,d+4(4), the 1,2,f+4, the 1,2,3 
    and the 1,2,1,2. Bruce’s high amount of taggable moves allows you to tag 
    Ogre in a lot. I recommend picking Bruce first to do the big damage and tag 
    in Ogre to finish the job. Your Ogre will back up Bruce’s lack of good 
    WS-attacks as Bruce backs Ogre up with his speed and combo options. Apart 
    from Bruce’s multi, this team has only one special frontal throw 
    (df,DF+2+4), which is really not enough. The main use for this team is to do 
    big damage as fast and easy as possible. More great Bruce stuff can be found 
    in Nick Noreaga’s FAQ. Team rating: ***
    - Ogre/Roger:
    I think this team is best used as a fun team. Roger has some good pokes in 
    2,1, standing 1, d+1,N~2 and df+1. I think Ogre backs up Rogers lack of 
    attack range as well, while Roger backs Ogre up with his fast jabs and good 
    arsenal of throws. Roger has the best left jab in the game, it’s fast and 
    has guaranteed followups when it counters. Also, standing jabs seem to whiff 
    more often on Roger than any other character in the game. Ogre has better 
    damage and stamina, so I recommend using him most of the time if possible. 
    This is more of a fun team to use in friendly matches, than a hardcore team 
    to use in tournament play. Still these two characters ge fairly well 
    together. If you want to learn more about Roger, check out the Roger FAQ by 
    Grim Walker and Synner. Team rating: ***
    - Ogre/Kuma:
    This team is actually pretty good. Kuma has some great pokes in 2,1. f+2 and 
    f+1, which are a lot better than most of what Ogre has. Kuma has some good 
    long range attacks, and his f,f+2 uppercut launches high enough for a 
    guaranteed b,f+2+3. Like Ogre, Kuma has do great damage in little time, and 
    has some great attacks in f+1,1,1 and WS+1,2. Kuma has a lot more speed than 
    many estimate, and also has a good set up throws to back up Ogres lack in 
    them. Ogre lacks a good dashing game  which Kuma backs up as well. Ogre’s 
    crouching and sidestepping game blends well with Kuma’s power attacks, they 
    both can put pressure on an opponent fairly well. Kuma has a good new 
    addition in his ManHuntStance. Ogres fast and long range kicking attacks are 
    a good help for Kuma since many of his kick attacks are very short and slow, 
    except for his standing 4, which can be followed up woth f+1+2 on CH. A very 
    solid team. More on Kuma in abrar’s awesome FAQ on him. Team rating: ****
    J.  POKING
    Probably the only thing that's still as effective in TTT as in T3 is poking, 
    one of the most essential techniques in Tekken today. Poking is basically 
    making use of attacks with come out fast and recover fast, like basic jabs. 
    Poking is a wide term, since it has more than one sole purpose. But poking 
    is essential for the good allround Tekken game, you cannot really compete in 
    higher level play without a solid poking game. There are all sorts of 
    different ways to use poking effectively depending on what kind of situation 
    you're in. There are different poking techniques which every play will be 
    confronted with sooner or later in high level play. These techniques will be 
    displayed underneath.
    Basic poking techniques
    - Offensive poking:
    The most commonly used poking tactic, and Ogres strongest point is poking. 
    Basically, offensive poking refers to chaining fast attacks with fast 
    recovery to each other for one sole purpose: pressure. If you keep staying 
    in the opponents face with fast pokes and basic jabs, you will have less 
    risk of retaliation, since the opponents counterattempts will most likely be 
    interrupted with offensive poking. If you keep offensive with fast attacks, 
    the frame advantage will always allow to to attack faster than the opponent 
    unless you use slower attacks with longer recovery. Offensive poking and 
    Set-up poking are often used in harmony which actually comes to the 
    definition of custom stringing, which will be explained later in this guide.
    Suitable attacks for offensive poking: 
    - Set-up Poking:
    Setting up is basically using fast pokes to connect, to get the framing 
    advantage needed to follow a attack for damage purposes (like a juggle 
    starter, throw or powermove) without having much fear of retaliation. A good 
    example is the df+1, which comes out fast AND recovers fast, so if you 
    connect you will have the opportunity for a followup before the opponent can 
    counter (like the d+1, which is guaranteed), because the recovery of the 2 
    will be faster than the recovery of the opponent from the impact, allowing 
    you to punish that recovery with a throw or fast jugglestarter, before the 
    opponent can interrupt you. If the opponent blocks you on time that's not a 
    real problem either unless you've set up an attack with slow recovery which 
    can be punished. The most important thing you need to know is that you must 
    set-up an attack which is pretty safe in speed and recovery since it happens 
    that the opponent might counter the move you've set up on time if your 
    attempt comes out too slow. Set-up your fast jugglestarters, powermoves and 
    throws and you should be able to use your set-up game without much risk of 
    getting punished.
    Moves to set-up:
    4/f,f,N+2/b+2/ws+4,4/ws+3,3/f,f+2/f+2/f+4/WS+2/any throw
    - Interrupting:
    Interrupting is actually more of a semi-definition of poking. Basically, 
    interrupting is to stop the opponents attack with fast pokes. This can be 
    either during the lagtimes between some (ten)strings or attacks that have a 
    start-up. Interrupting is best done with fast pokes, and it also depends on 
    the distance you are in, use long range pokes to interrupt attacks from a 
    distance and shorter range pokes to interrupt up close. Estimate the speed 
    of your interrupts and your opponents attack to interrupt their attacks 
    safely, be sure to time right as well, since these days every whiffed attack 
    can be punished no matter how good the recovery is. Interrupting occurs very 
    commonly in harmony with offensive poking since it happens a lot that you'll 
    interrupt the opponents counter attempt when you stay in his face with 
    custom strings and set-ups due to the framing advantage you have gained.
    Interrupts: 1(2)/1(1)/2/d+1/d+4/df+1/ws+4,4/ws+3,3/df+4/
    - Keep away:
    Keep away is not really considered a poking tactic, but most of the time, 
    keep away is actually used as a defensive way of poking. The best way to 
    indicate keep away tactics is keeping the opponent at a certain distance by 
    constantly using (long range) pokes to discourage him to get into a hostile 
    range. A good example is to keep a Paul player out of falling leaf range by 
    constantly countering him with a fast long range attack everytime he tries 
    to rush in to keep him at bay. A good keep away move is the df+4, because it 
    has awesome range and speed and give you framing advantage once connected 
    for you to either gain some spacing or quicky rush in with a fast poke or 
    throw to gain pressure. The d+4 is great as well since it hits low and 
    reaches a suprising distance, and forces the opponent to try and block low 
    on you when they rush in next leaving them vulnerable from he crouch for a 
    df+4 or other fast mid-hitting attack. Great keep away moves from your 
    crouch are the WS+4,4 amd WS+3,3, which keep the opponent at a distance to 
    avoid getting countered whenever you try to execute from a crouch, like 
    after a d+1 attempt. Apart from those attacks Ogres keep away game isn’t 
    really good, since most of his long range attacks are pretty slow.I would 
    concetrate more on gaining pressure with custom strings, which is Ogres 
    stronger point
    Poking is essential in Tekken, but you don't have too see all these poking 
    techniques as loose definitions. You can use all these poking techniques in 
    harmony and blend them up. For instance, if you interrupt your opponent, you 
    already have a set-up allowing you to stay offensive on the opponent with 
    fast pokes and custom strings. Poking is the safest way to do your popular 
    moves(throws, jugglestarters, powermoves, unblockables) without risk of 
    getting punished, and without necessairily waiting for counterhit 
    opportunity. That's the main reason why I think it's one of the most 
    important features in the entire game. Ogre isn’t as good of a poker 
    compared to many other characters since his jabs are slow and he hasn’t got 
    much else to compete up close against a Bruce or Law player. Still you need 
    to use Ogres fast attack to gain the pressure needed to utilize his reliable 
    options of doing damage, like the WS+2, uf+4 and throwing.
    Comboing is a term that's used pretty much used in every fighting
    game. For those who still don't know, a definition of a combo is a 
    combination of certain attacks which link together doing damage combined. 
    Combo's are used in just about every fighting game I've played. Some combo 
    systems are cheap (Killer Instinct, though I loved to play it really), some 
    systems plainly suck (Mortal Kombat, the most krappiest kombo system of all 
    beat 'em ups) and some have great quality (Tekken, Street Fighter, tha real
    work). Fortunately, comboing in Tekken is vital as far as doing damage goes, 
    and in every match, you will be confronted with combo's wether you pull 'em 
    or eat 'em wether it's a simple 2 punch combo, or a monstrous 120+ combo off 
    one hellsweep by a crazy, coffee and coke addicted Jin-nutshell, comboing 
    will stay in Tekken, and probably in every other popular beat'em ups, one of 
    the most deep features ever. Ogre is not a combo character like the 
    Mishima’s but most of them are quite damaging and easy to do.
    Ogres Combo starters:
    - ws+2       - Stuns opponent on clean hit/counter -
    - uf+4:      - Juggles opponent -
    - uf,n,3     - Stuns opponent -
    - f,f+3      - Juggles opponent -
    - f,f+2      - 2nd hit staggers opponent, escapable with b,b -
    - d,db+4     - Juggles opponent on MC, taggable.
    - D+3,3,n,3 - Juggles opponent, taggable -
    - FC,f+2     - Staggers opponent -
    - SS+4       - Juggles opponent, hits grounded opponents -
    - df+2       - Staggers big characters, Juggles small characters on CH -
    - FC,df+2    - Juggles opponent -
    - ub+3,2     - Juggles opponent, second hit juggle is taggable -
    - Side tip for beginners: In order to juggle effectively you must find good 
    juggle extensions, which will keep your opponent in the air long enough to 
    do more air damage. Good options are basic jabs and the df+1. Also, damaging 
    juggle finishers are also important if you want to do good guaranteed 
    damage, good attacks for Ogre here are the f+2, the Standing 4 and the f+2. 
    Experiment with different combinations of different attacks after a 
    jugglestarter (see above) to see what is effective and what doesn't. It's 
    important to have good combo's with solid damage that are easy to remember, 
    since good arcade players won't easily allow juggle opportunities after one 
    or two tries, so make sure you have some good combo's ready, to take 
    advantage of every juggle opportunity without getting startled everytime.
    Combo List
    Most of them are quite easy to do in the heat of battle, and most have them 
    still do enough damage to get a good headstart in damage or come back pretty 
    decently after you are behind in the match. If there are any errors in the 
    list, please let me know, any notices of corrections will be thanked and 
    credited. If the word “big” is listed behind a combo it means it can only be 
    done on te bigger characters in the game (Ganryu, Jack-2, P.Jack, Gunjack, 
    Kuma, True Ogre). On with the list......
    (Side note: all uf+4 combo’s can be followed after ws+2 stun making them 
    more damaging combo’s)
    Total amount of combo’s listed: 56
    Hopefully you will find some use is these combo’s, and if you have to add 
    some combo’s or correct some stuff if there happen to be flaws in there, you 
    can e-mail me anytime.
    The essence of custom strings is growing larger in Tekken everytime.
    Custom strings basically are fast attacks with fast recovery glued together 
    to keep the opponent from attacking you. You are more or less playing a 
    "block or get hit" game with your opponent. The best way to use custom 
    strings is after interrupts or when the opponent is immobilized. Custom 
    strings are also great to set up certain attacks/throws with fast pokes, 
    those attacks are displayed at the end of each "string". The following 
    custom strings I tend to use are:
    1,1->df+1->d+1->buffer into 1+3(~5)
    1,1->df+1->1,2->buffer into df,DF+2+4
    1,1->df+1->buffer into 1+3(~5)
    I use the 1,1 a lot to start custom string because it’s the fastest attack 
    Ogre has from standing position (10frames) and puts you in range by impact 
    making followups very easy. Especially the df+1 afterwards works well since 
    it recovers fast and puts you close enough by impact, to follow a guaranteed 
    d+1, which is Ogres main attack to set-up his crouching game.
    df+1->df+1->d+1->buffer into 1+3(~5)
    df+1->df+1->1,1->buffer into 1+3(~5)
    df+1->1,1->df+1->d+2->buffer into df,DF+2+4
    df+1->1,1->df+1->buffer into 1+3
    df+1->1,1->buffer into 1+3
    df+1->d+1->buffer into 1+3(~5)
    df+1->d+1->FC+4->(hold FC)df+2_f+2
    The df+1 is Ogres best pressuring move, and custom stringing is all about 
    putting pressure on a defending opponent. This is ideal since it’s 
    unparryable, unduckable, recovers quick and sets up very well, allowing a 
    free d+1 to set up your WS and FC-moves., and it recovers extremely quick. 
    The df+1 is a must if you want to maintain offensive without risk to get 
    I credit ETP and some other players for their custom string idea’s, which 
    inspired me to put up this section.
    This section will display in more detail than the move analysis how to use 
    Ogres throws, special counters and escapes effectively, and several 
    strategies around them. You cannot always rely on fast pokes and your string 
    mixups everytime, that's when your throws and counters often become you most 
    useful weapons.
    Apart from punches and kicks, throwing is another important attack method in 
    TTT. Even with characters who lack throws should use them, since most throws 
    can only escaped at the start-up. If you cloak your throw attempt well with 
    your fast pokes and attack strings, you should be able to suprise your 
    opponent before they get the reaction to hit the escape. A very good example 
    is to buffer your throw with your fast pokes, not only for a faster 
    execution, but if your poke connects, it'll often set you up for your throw 
    attempt. You can throws after a stun or even during the mid frames of some 
    moves. Throws can be executed standing or chrouching, even off a rolldash or 
    sway. Be sure to estimate the distancing of Ogres throw range, since a 
    missed throw attempt will be punished. Still I wish Ogre has at least one 
    more special throw, since I think he still lacks in amounts of throw, and it 
    would've been great to give Ogre a new throw. Here is a small summary on all 
    of Ogre throws.
    - Regular Throws
    1+3/2+4(front): Ogres basic frontal throws are probably the throws you'll 
    use the most. Mix them both up well to force the opponent into a guessing 
    game with the escape. These throws can be done off a ducking position as 
    well, many opponents don't seem to expect that, which is a good thing.  
    After the 1+3, a d+3 is guaranteed, and it’s taggable. The 2+4 is far less 
    useful, but should still be mixed up with 1+3 so the opponent is forced with 
    a guessing game with the escape.
    1+3 - Escape: 1
    2+4 - Escape: 2
    1+3/2+4(from the opponents side): Because Ogres sidestep is so huge it 
    happens often your sidethrows will not reach, and you cwill be vulnerable to 
    be punished . None of Ogres sidethrows have guaranteed followups but they 
    both look painful. Using Ogre you won’t get a sidethrow attempt a lot 
    against good players.
    Left Sidesthrow - Escape: 1
    Right Sidesthrow - Escape: 2
    1+3/2+4(on backturned opponent): Backthrowing is something which occurs in a 
    select few situations, like to counter moves such as Devils lasers, 
    Hwoarangs f,f+4, P.Jacks 3+4, Yoshi's Deathcopter, Julia's Earthquake Stomp 
    and after sidestepping moves that are linear and travel a long distance, 
    like a Thunder Godfist or Kings f+2+3, just about any situation where the 
    opponents back is vulnerable to you. Connect a backthrow, and your opponent 
    loses big of damage, and on top of that, the FC+3 is guaranteed afterwards, 
    so if you tag off it, the already heavy damage will be increased even more, 
    and the character you've tagged in via the tag throw should be able to 
    finish the job if the opponent isn't dead yet, since such a headstart in 
    damage should be taken advantage of. Still whatever you do, don't try 
    backthrowing on Lings and Lei's, you'll most likely end up thrown or 
    Escape: n/a
    - Special Throws:
    This throw is escapable now, unlike the previous versions of this guide say, 
    which really sucks. Still it’s a two button escape, and that’s always harder 
    for an opponent to escape. But it still sets up some good added damage when 
    you connect this throw, and that’s why it should be used often. because you 
    are vulnerable during the execution time of this throw, I’d recommend 
    buffering it. This is together with uf+4 the best followup after the ws+2 
    double over stun, so that’s anothe good situation to pull this off. Like 
    with all throws, you should mix it up with his basic throws, to keep the 
    opponent guesing for the breakout. This is Ogres best throw.
    Chickens are used to counter the opponent's high mid attack-reversals
    (Jin, Wang, Jun, Paul, Nina and Anna). This has to be done fast, so  you 
    might not get the timing everytime. An easy trick for that is to buffer your 
    attack with either f+1+3(left limb reversal) or f+2+4 (right limb reversal) 
    if you feel you'll get reversed.
    Important moves to chicken:
    f+2              - Chicken: f+2+4
    1,1>2            - Chicken: f+2+4(last hit)
    ws+3,3,d+3,3...  - Chicken: f+1+3(any)
    uf+3,4,3         - Chicken: f+1+3 (first hit)
    f,f+3            - Chicken: f+1+3
    ws+4,4           - Chicken: f+2+4 (second hit)
    uf+4             - Chicken: f+2+4
    FC,f+2           - Chicken: f+2+4
    FC,f+1           - Chicken: f+1+3
    D+3,3,N+3        - Chicken: f+1+3 (last hit)
    d+4,4            - Chicken: f+2+4 (last hit, if the first whiffs)
    ub+3,2           - Chicken: f+2+4 (last hit)
    4                - Chicken: f+2+4
    d,db+4           - Chicken: f+2+4
    f,f,N+4          - Chicken: f+2+4
    df+2             - Chicken: f+2+4
    f+4              - Chicken: f+2+4
    f,f+4            - Chicken: f+2+4
    Against reversal happy players, it's a good tactic to bait them into a 
    Chicken everytime, especially since the chicken does damage to the opponent. 
    By buffering your Chicken it allows you to execute faster, and lets you gain 
    some spacing again, since the opponent canot tag out during their recovery 
    of a chicken. In the "Buffering" section more on how to exactly buffer a 
    Throw Escapes
    Escaping throws is more common the more you do it. Most throws have
    single button escapes(1 or 2), some are escaped with two buttons pressed 
    simultaneously (1+2). Throw escapes are the main reason why throwing 
    shouldn't be called cheap. Escaping throws can be tricky at times, you have 
    to have good anticipation, since most throws can only be escaped at the 
    start-up. There are some tricks for throw escapes:
    - If the throw is executed with a right attack (i.e. Baek/Hwoarangs
    f,f+2, King/Armor Kings db,f+2) the escape is most likely 2.
    - If the throw is executed with both punches simultaneously(1+2) attack 
    (i.e. Yoshi's qcb+1+2, Kuma's hcb,f+1+2) the most common escape is a 1+2.
    - If the throw is executed with a left attack (i.e.GunJacks qcf+1
    Roger/Alex' hcf+1) the most common escape is 1.
    - All basic front throws are escaped with either 1 (1+3) or 2 (2+4).
    - All tackles are escaped with 1+2.
    But there are lots of exceptions to this rule underneath, it was pretty time 
    consuming to test these out, I couldn't confirm all escapes so any help will 
    be credited. I'm sure I didn't post all throw-escapes, so mail me if I 
    forgot something. Here are the exceptions:
    f,f+1+4 - escape: 1+2
    df+2+4 - escape: 2
    df,df+1 - escape: 1+2
    qcf+1+2 - escape: 2
    uf+3 - escape: 2 (unconfirmed)
    df,DF+2+4 - escape: 1+2
    db+1+3 - escape: 1+2
    df+2+3 - escape: 2
    df+1+2 - escape: 2
    d,db+1+3 - escape: 2
    qcb,f+2 - escape: 1+2
    Prototype Jack:
    db+2+3 - escape: 1+2
    df+2+3 - escape: 2
    qcb+1+2 - escape: 1
    Gun Jack
    db+2+3 - escape: 2
    f,f+2+3 - escape: 2
    df+2+4 - escape: 2
    d+1+3 - escape: 1+2
    df+1+2 - escape: 2
    df,df+1 - escape: 1+2
    qcf+1+2 - 2(?)
    b+2+3 - escape: 2
    df+2+3 - escape: 2
    f+2~1 - escape: 1+2
    f,f+2+3 - escape: 1+2
    qcb+3 - escape: 2
    d,db+1+3 - escape: 1+2
    f,f+3+4 - escape: 1
    db+1+3 - escape: 1+2
    - Side tactic:
    A lot of times you have to put up a guessing game with throw escapes, there 
    are some easy tricks for that. A well known one is to press 
    1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2...etc. which gives you a fifty fifty chance of an escape. If 
    you are not sure wether it'll be a two button or 1 button escape, a good way 
    is to buffer it with  a standing jab (i.e. 1(hold 2)1). If you do it fast 
    enough and the 1 button won't do, the buffer will escape the throw (if it 
    requires a 1+2 escape).
    Buffering is an advanced tactic which allows you to execute moves 
    differently and faster, by cancelling them into each other. Buffering is a 
    very wide term, like poking, since it can be used in so many different 
    forms. Buffering is used during custom strings, escaping, juggles and 
    multiparts. Dashbuffering, Crouchbuffering and Buttonbuffering are the most 
    common forms, but you can also buffer with lowparries, throwing, multiparts, 
    throw escapes, chickens and unblockables, even taunts. This section will 
    give you info on the most common forms of buffering in high level play.
    Button Buffering
    Button Buffering is the most common buffering method in TTT. Basically is 
    cancelling attacks with single button commands (standing jabs, for instance) 
    with double button commands (basic throws i.e.).
    A small example:
    1 into 1+3 -> 1(hold 1)3.
    Basically if you hold the 1 and initiate the 3, so you’ll press both buttons 
    together, and then you’ll pull the 1+3. The 1 will allow the throw to come 
    out easier and if the 1 hits the chance of retaliation is minimized as well. 
    Button buffering is a quick and easy way to pull moves that require two or 
    three button pressed simultaneously, and is used very often during combo’s 
    and sorts.
    - More examples
    FC,df+2,f,f+1+2 ---> FC,df+2(hold 2)f,f+1 - The f,f+1+2 is always guaranteed 
    once the FC,df+2 hits, but if you buffer it makes the execution far easier.
    ws+2(s)df,DF+2+4 ---> ws+2(hold 2)df,DF+4 - If you want to execute the 
    waning moon faster off the gutpunch stun, than you must buffer it this way.
    df+1 into 1+3 ---> df+1(hold 1)3 - Throw buffer.
    1,2 into df,DF+2+4 ---> 1,2(hold 2)~f,f~df,DF+2+4 - You must rush in to make 
    the df,DF+2+4 reach.
    df+2(on big characters)into df,DF+2+4 ---> df+2(hold 2)~F,df,DF+2+4 - Must 
    initiate the “F” to connect the throw. Must be pulled fast. I still am not 
    sure if the Waninbg Moon is guaranteed or not.
    df+4 into f+1+4 ----> df+4(hold 4)f+1 - Yeah, I know this one looks weird, 
    but I actually use it at times, since the framing you gain from df+4 makes 
    it harder for the opponent to attack you and will block the f+1+4 very often 
    allowing a free tag-out.
    - How to buffer Chickens:
    Remember the part about chickening in the "Throws and Counters section", 
    well here, it'll be shown how to buffer them easily. If you feel your get 
    attack reversed, you must buffer your Chicken the same way as you would with 
    throws but faster:
    Attack           Chicken                        Buffer
    f+2              - Chicken: f+2+4-------------->f+2(hold f+2)4
    1,1>2            - Chicken: f+2+4(last hit)---->1,1>2(hold 2)f+4
    ws+3,3,d+3,3...  - Chicken: f+1+3-------------->any 3(hold 3)f+1
    uf+3,4,3         - Chicken: f+1+3(first hit)--->uf+3(hold 3)f+1
    f,f+3            - Chicken: f+1+3-------------->f,f+3(hold 3)f+1
    ws+4,4           - Chicken: f+2+4(second hit)-->ws+4,4(hold 4)f+2
    uf+4             - Chicken: f+2+4-------------->uf+4(hold 4)f+2
    FC,f+2           - Chicken: f+2+4-------------->FC,f+2(hold 2)f+4
    FC,f+1           - Chicken: f+1+3-------------->FC,f+1(hold 1)f+3
    D+3,3,N+3        - Chicken: f+1+3(last hit)---->,N+3(hold 3)f+1
    d+4,4            - Chicken: f+2+4(last hit)---->d+(4)4(hold 4)f+2
    ub+3,2           - Chicken: f+2+4(last hit)---->ub+3,2(hold 2)f+4
    4                - Chicken: f+2+4-------------->4(hold 4)f+2
    d~DB+4           - Chicken: f+2+4-------------->d~DB+4(hold 4)f+2
    f,f,N+4          - Chicken: f+2+4-------------->f,f,N+4(hold 4)f+2
    df+2             - Chicken: f+2+4-------------->df+2(hold 2)f+4
    f+4              - Chicken: f+2+4-------------->f+4(hold 4)f+2
    f,f+4            - Chicken: f+2+4-------------->f,f+4(hold 4)f=2
    Ogre strongest buffering game is in the form of the crouchbuffer. 
    Crouchbuffering can be done in every FC-move n the game, it's done by 
    cancelling moves that END in FC-position (recover in a chrouch) and moves 
    that BEGIN in FC position (executed FROM a crouch). A good and wellknown 
    example is the simple d+1 lowjab. Examples of moves executed from FC are 
    Julia's FC,df+2 and Bryans FC,df,d,DF+1+2. If they are cancelled into each 
    other with a low jab, you'll get d+1,df+2(Julia) d+1,df,d,DF+1+2(Bryan). 
    This is a schemtic display of the execution of a crouch buffer:
    Moves that recover in FC(i.e.d+1) -----> Moves that begin in FC(i.e.FC,df+2)
    You can more or less say the FC-position can be used as a transmission 
    medium to cancel two moves in one, which defines, of course, the 
    crouchbuffer. Ogre has numberous most which are executed recover in the FC 
    position so, it can make an important part in his offense:
    Moves that recover in FC position:
    d+1, d+2 and D+3,3,d+3
    Moves that begin in FC position:
    FC,f+2, FC,f+1 and FC,df+2
    Now all you have to do is link these together (d+1 used as example):
    d+1 into FC,f+2  -----> d+1,f+2
    d+1 into FC,df+2 -----> d+1,df+2
    d+1 into FC,f+1  -----> d+1,f+1
    Mix these up with your WS-moves after a d+1 to define some great tactics 
    surrounding Ogres crouch. But if the lowjab is blocked the followup is 
    blocked often too, so you best option is to leave it alone or buffer into a 
    throw (a better option IHMO).
    The indicated combo’s can not be pulled without a crouchbuffer:
    As you can see, crouchbuffering is a very versatile form of buffering, and 
    can suprise the hell out of the opponent, since it's an awesome method to 
    cloak your attacks ina particular execution your opponent might not expect.
    Recovery is another essential part of the all-round Tekken game. To recover 
    from the ground the safest way depends a lot on what the opponent does. 
    There are lots of ways to recover, and I'll display how I think the 
    different ways to recover from the ground should be used.
    - Recover Standing:
    To recover standing, you have to press up when you're grounded. This is the 
    safest way to recover from the ground if you're knocked down from a distance 
    and once you are on two feet again you can still block the opponents 
    additional attacks. But if be predictable with recovering standing, the 
    opponent might use low or attacks once you get up, or a fast juggle starter 
    or fast mid attack up close, like a hopkick or tilesplitter (Paul/Hei's 
    - Recover crouching:
    To recover in your crouch press u~D once you get knocked down, this can be 
    useful when the opponent keeps rushing in on you from a small distance, to 
    counter with a ws+3 knee or ws+1 juggle starter. If they expect you to 
    recover standing and use sweep or so, you can block it on time with the 
    chrouch recovery. Watch out for overheads, you might want to use a d+1 as 
    interrupt if you want to recover in your chrouch safely, more than enough to 
    discourage an opponent to rush in for a minor counter.
    - Roll backwards/forwards:
    Roll backwards with b while grounded and f to roll forwards. Use this to 
    avoid attacks such as a regular uf+2, ground pounces, or Julia's uf+3+4, and 
    other mid attacks that hit grounded opponents, but rolling backwards or 
    forwards exposed to the opponent, he'll have a great time pummeling you with 
    okizeme. A lot of intermediate players seem to roll backwards almost 
    automatically, which is bad thing, if you roll after every knockdown you are 
    very vulnerable to the ranged opponent. Use at the right times. The best way 
    to use rolling is in harmony with the Cross Chop (f+1+2) or reverse flip 
    - Sideroll:
    Siderolling can be done with d+1,N and will put you in face down position. 
    This is very safe if opponents use okizeme attacks that are too linear, this 
    will avoid King/Armor King/Rogers alikicks, 
    Heihachi/Jin/Devil/Kazuya/Ogre/True Ogres 4~3 and Yoshi's db+1 if timed 
    right. Great to use, pretty safe option to recover if you time right.
    - Recover with sweep (3):
    Recovering with the sweep it useful when the opponents whiffs an okizeme 
    attempt (this happens more often than some may think) for a fast knockdown . 
    Still, the sweep isn't really a recovery method that is reliable, since good 
    players will stay out of it's range and minor counter your recovery.
    - Recover with mid kick (4):
    Use as a mixup with the sweep but like the sweep, this can be parried, good 
    players will also stay out of range and punish your recovery.
    - Recover with an ankle kick (d+4): A simple ankle kick can be good to keep 
    an opponent at bay when they rush in for okizeme. Very good for chipping 
    damage, and when it connects you can block safely after getting up. But 
    don’t overuse this at all costs, since opponents may expect the ankle if you 
    do it too oftenand lowparry or backdash out of range to punish you once you 
    get up.
    - Roll ->Reverse Handspringkick:
    While rolling you can press b+3+4 to jump up with a flip that'll hit the 
    opponent. This is great when the opponent has knocked you away with a 
    Deathfist or other move that knocks far away for a suprising counter. Still, 
    it's best used when the opponent rushes in instead of when he's just 
    standing still in anticipation, since you end up backturned after you flip 
    upwards, and if it's whiffled, you might get punished.
    - Roll->Diving Punch:
    During your roll press f+1+2 to do dive at your opponent with your fists 
    lunging forward. This is a great way to recover and connects very often, 
    even from smaller distances. It comes out as a sort of suprise attack, great 
    for wake up games. The only con this type of recovery has is the fact that 
    it can be sidestepped pretty easily.
    - The Techroll:
    Techrolling allows you to instantly recover from the ground, after a 
    knockdown with a quick sidewards roll. It's done pressing 1~2~3~4 
    immediately after a knockdown. This is very useful when you get juggled, 
    since you might tech away from it to spare you some damage. Techrolling is 
    also useful in okizeme to spare some damage. But if a skilled opponent just 
    waits at a distance, and you techroll, you won't be able to block on time, 
    since techrolls can be punished by many attacks if you don't time them right 
    or use them before the opponent attacks you.
    - The Tag Recovery:
    You can recover from the ground pressing 5 as you roll off screen to tag in 
    your partner. The tag recovery may be a very good way to avoid getting 
    okizeme, but smart players will just counter your teammate with a juggle or 
    whatever once he tags in. A good way to avoid that is to tag cancel (5~u/b) 
    before you roll off screen just to stay out of range via the tag recover, 
    and to maybe even fool the opponent as well.
    Countering is something you'll get involved in a lot during your matches. 
    The word alone speaks for itself, a counterattack is an attack that hits the 
    opponent during their own attack, wether it's during the start-up or 
    recovery. A counter is usually done by fast attacks that interrupt slower 
    attacks, but not necessairely, it all depends on the way to time a move, and 
    at what distance. Many attacks in TTT will give you more frame advantage 
    when you land a CH than when you connect by normal impact. Some attacks, 
    like the df+2 or d,DB+4 , will have a different effect when it counters, 
    when some attacks hit normally on non-counterhit, they'll stun or juggle 
    when you do counter or knock down on counter like they normally don't 
    (standing 4's), just to give some examples, which gives countering a large 
    part in the incredible deepness in TTT. Some followups are guaranteed on CH 
    when they aren't with a normal hit, hell even some combo's are only possible 
    after a CH. There are two different ways to counter:
    Minor Counter
    A minor counter occurs when you counter the opponent during the recovery of 
    their attack, that means when you either block their attack or when their 
    attack whiffs. If the recovery of a certain attack is long, he'll be more 
    vulnerable for a minor counter than  with faster recovery. Usually there 
    won't be much difference in your attack when you minor counter as in a 
    normal hit except that your attack might to a little more damage. Minor 
    Counters occur a lot when the opponent is wide open after you've successfull 
    blocked or sidestepped their attack, for a free hit. Depending on how fast 
    or slow the recovery, you must use an attack with the proper speed needed. 
    Attacks with faster recovery have to be punished faster attacks and attacks 
    with long recovery can be punished with moved that come out slower. Ogres 
    best move for this is the uf+4.
    Major Counter
    Major Counter (MC) occurs when you counter DURING the opponents move with 
    your own attack. This requires more anticipation than the Minor Counter, but 
    is a lot more rewarding. The most occurring major counter is interrupting 
    the opponents attack with fast pokes, but the major counter is also common 
    on a larger scale like with moves that juggle or stun on CH. Most of the 
    time you have to use faster attacks than the opponent for a major counter, 
    but sometimes it just takes sheer timing and anticipation, to get a major 
    counter out of moves such as ws+2 and df+2, especially WS+2, since the 
    safest way to pull it is during a Major Counter, since it’s slow enough to 
    get hit out of easily. Major Counter will also occur if you counter a 
    running opponent, chrouch/rolldashing opponent, an opponent who tags in or a 
    jumping opponent.
    Counterattacking is especially important for Ogre due to moves such as WS+2, 
    df+2, d,DB+4 and 1,1>2, even df+1. This means you have to wait until a 
    chance to counter the opponent and stay in advantage by being offensive from 
    there on to play Bryan to his full effectiveness. Off one counter, Bryan can 
    take away a half a lifebar on his own, so waiting for a good chance to 
    counter is vital with Bryan. Good ways to get a counterhit is to use 
    block-retaliate tactics to hope for a minor counter or maybe evasive tactics 
    like sidestepping, (back)dashing and ducking, it's all up to you what's 
    best. But you have to mainly try to focus on the fact to try to counter your 
    opponent, wether it's a fast poke or powermove, to set your offense up with 
    more ease.
    This section is a straight easy way how to mix-up your game, to stay 
    unpredictable. If you use the same tactics over and over, that's asking to 
    get punished. So if you learn how to vary your game, you'll stay 
    predictable. In this section, I'll tell you which are important attacks to 
    mix up. These vary from attack string to dashing moves. Here are the 
    displays of certain features Ogre has suitable for mixups.
    The Crouch Mix-up
    - Mix up:
    d+1 into
    - FC,f+2
    - FC,df+2
    - WS+2
    - Infinity Kick (first 4 kicks)
    - Throw
    Because Ogre is know for his crouch execution, players will always try to 
    anticipate what Ogre will do after he goes into his crouch (most of the time 
    with a d+1). You must keep them guessing in this situation. Once you connect 
    a d+1 there are numberous ways to execute from the crouch:
    -d+1->FC,df+2: Mix this one up with the other mixups listed. Once you 
    connect d+1, they could expect FC,f+2, ws+2 or ws+4,4 and block high. If the 
    opponent expects you to throw, they have to initiate the escape. In both 
    situations, FC,df+2 will hit, and a f,f+1+2 is guaranteed afterwards.
    -d+1->FC,f+2, ws+3,3 or WS+2: If you connect the FC,df+2 or a throw after 
    d+1, mix up ws+4,4, ws+2 and FC,f+2, since the opponent may either try a 
    throw escape or block crouching, and ws+4,4, FC,f+2 and ws+2 all connect in 
    these situations. FC,f+2 staggers on counter with guaranteed followups and 
    does big damage, if ws+3,3 connects the first two infinity kicks are 
    guaranteed for big damage combined, and ws+2 causes the stun on a clean hit 
    which leads to damaging followups.
    - d+1->throw. This is an alternative for FC,f+2, WS+2, and the Infinity 
    Kicks, if the opponent expect one of those attacks and blocks standing, 
    initiate the throw to catch them instead. The best throw IMO is 1+3 since 
    it’s bufferable with d+1, the D+3 is guaranteed afterwards and it’s 
    The f,f,N mixup
    Mix up:
    Very useful mix-up for okizeme, I saw something like this in Sauer Krauts 
    Tekken3 FAQ, so I will give him credit. This mixup takes use of Ogres 
    “f,f,N”-attacks. After you knocked down the opponent, initiate the f,f, and 
    during the “Neutral” motion you’ll have the time to anticipate how the 
    opponent recovers. If the opponent rises quick press 2 for the 
    unblockable(f,f,N+2). If the opponent recovers crouching or with a 
    seep/ankle kick press 4 for the heel kick (f,f,N+4) and if they roll away 
    press 3+4 for the slide kick (f,f,N+3+4). To clear things up in a more 
    schematic display:
                                 A ---> 2
    Knockdown->f,f->N(anticipate)B ---> 4
                                 C ---> 3+4
    - A =  Opponent recovers standing
    - B =  Opponent recovers crouching
    - C =  Opponent rolls away.
    This mixup requires good anticipation and timing to utilize effective. But 
    of you master this mixup, you can keep the opponent on the ground for 
    The 1,1 Mixup
    Mix up:
    This is a pretty good mix-up I use a lot myself in custom strings and sorts. 
    Simply this mix up tactic is effective because the1,1>2 is delayable. If the 
    opponent blocks 1,1 you can buffer it into a throw (it's not guaranteed 
    though, but that's actually what makes it useful in the mixup useful 
    ->explained later), if 1,1 hits delaying the 2 of the 1,1>2  will allow a 
    knockdown pretty safely. The coolness is, if you over use the 1,1>2 
    opponents will expect to block the last hit, and attempting a throw instead 
    will catch them off guard or even a d+4. If the opponent expects you to do a 
    throw attempt after 1,1 (wether it hits or blocked or ducked) you can delay 
    the 3rd hit (of the 1,1>2 combo) to hit them during their throw escape 
    execution or crouch attempt. The 1,1->df+4 and 1,1->df+1 are too solid 
    alternatives of 1,1,delayed 2 as custom strings in this mixup. In both 
    cases, the d+1 after 1,1 is pretty safe for that matter as well, but can be 
    blocked standing and crouching. This tactic is best againsts offensive 
    character with no particular parry or attack reversal. Against those 
    characters, this pacing tactic works pretty well, especially if you have a 
    pitbull styled game.
    Beginning of the round
    Players are often speculated by one question: "Once the announcer says 
    "FIGHT" what should be my first move?". Well, the most important thing you 
    have to remember in this case is NOT to do the same thing everytime the 
    rounds starts, that'll add only to your predictability, some good players 
    will look at your hands before the round starts to see what buttons you have 
    ready. This is another form of mixing up that's more important than some may 
    imagine, since if you are predictable once the round starts it may prove 
    costly in the rest of the match. Here are some moves with Ogre you can do 
    once the round starts, and you will have to mix up.
    - Backdash: A simple backdash is probably the safest thing to do especially 
    against King and Lei players who oughtta start the round with a hopkick or 
    whatever. You will backdash out of attack range and leaving the opponent 
    open for an easy counter.  Still there are some attacks that can punish you 
    when you recover from your dash, so be sure to be unpredictable when you 
    plan to start with a backdash manuever as the round starts.
    - uf+4: Not a bad option for the cocky player (like myself, lol), but good 
    players know this manuever so don’t get predictable with it (I have eaten a 
    lot of junk trying to pull this once the round started and I didn’t cover my 
    hands on the controls well enough for the players to see at the controllers 
    what my first move would be). Use it every once in awhile. Remember: vary 
    your game.
    - df+4: The best option IMHO, since it comes out fast and recovers fast, 
    reaches far enough, and gives you some advantage in frames if it hits. The 
    only thing that beats this practically are basic jabs, so is a very safe 
    move to start out with. If the opponent rushes in and gets caught in the toe 
    kick, he’ll probably back away a bit, for you to gain pressure early on.
    - d+4: Another great option. It hits low, reaches far enough and is pretty 
    fast. I haven’t seen players who plan to block crouching once the round 
    starts (unless this is the only attack you use in this situation), so this 
    is a pretty safe way to start. Don’t use it a lot, since players will try to 
    anticipate and parry it. Mix up with the other options listed here.
    - 1,1: This beats almost anything the opponent will try once the round 
    starts but it lacks range, and Heihaci players can EWGF you for example if 
    they backdash out of range of this attack. Use this against players who like 
    to stay in your face right away once the timer runs.
    - Sidestep: Pretty decent especially with a SS as huge as Ogres. Watch out 
    for throws though.
    - Duck: This can be very effective, especially against cocky Jin players who 
    start their rounds with the (E)WGF everytime. Be careful against hopkickers 
    and players that like to df+2 uppercut you once the round starts.
    - Throw: Good against players who stay on guard once the round, you can 
    usually tell against intermediates already have their joystick backwards 
    before the announcer says “FIGHT” (Doesn’t the annoucer suck?! I liked the 
    annoucer in Tekken2 a lot better). Heck, I’m not an intermediate anymore, 
    and I still can’t help doing it at times.
    - 4: Probably cheap if the opponents keeps running/dashing in range, since 
    it does huge damage. But if it’s ducked or when players backdash out of it’s 
    range you are left vulnerable.
    - Walk backward: This is the best option against players you compete with 
    the first few times. This allows you to kind of feel the opponent out and 
    anticipate his first move and stay defensive enough not to get into trouble. 
    If the opponent attacks you recklessly you are in good to be in posirion to 
    block and minor countr with a uf+4 hopkick or throw
    - df+2: Not a bad option. If you connect this, the opponent will stagger 
    backwards a bit, which is very good, since you’ll get advantage even if the 
    opponent decides to attack you, and quickly hunt the opponent down with a 
    unblockable or df+4, before the opponent attack you. Against offensive 
    players, this can get you an early juggle opportunity in the game. I prefer 
    usuing this on bifgger and slower characaters due to the liftstun it causes 
    to get off a combo.
    Mixing up is very important since predictability is always a downfall 
    against good players. 9 times out of 10 the player who varies his game the 
    best wins. Tekken is a game with lots of deepness and the main deal is to 
    use that deepness to your advantage. Besides, who wants to get a "Chicken!" 
    Icon? Your honor as a gamer is at stake if you don't vary your game (still, 
    the "Chicken!" is not entirely accurate in some cases if you ask me).
    Mixing up is one of the most important, if not the most important thing you 
    have to learn if you want an organised offense, and Ogre has one of the 
    better offenses in the game despite his weaknesses.
    Ogre is probably one of the more misunderstood characters in Tekken,
    mainly because of the fact he's got borrowed moves from other characters.
    But that's what makes him such a cool character, with all the different
    styles he has combined he may not be as wellrounded as most characters can
    be, but he has enough in his arsenal to kick other characters asses. He is 
    far from being overpowered in TTT, since almost everything he has is toned 
    down since Tekken3. Ogre has great balance in hit ranges and has the ability 
    to take it on up close and far away, and can be very dangerous off his huge 
    sidesteps and crouch, and has some of the best okizeme in the game. I hope 
    people will think less hard on Ogre from now on, I think Ogre deserves to be 
    respected more than he does currently despite his many weaknesses, and to 
    know that he's far more than a mixture of certain characters. The 
    combination of the T2 subboss' moves gives him the ability to be unique in 
    his own way, and giving him the ability to kick as much ass as every other 
    character in the game.
    T.  SITES
    I'll credit the following sites for their hard work:
    One of the best sites on Tekken. I credit drumdude for the fantastic
    work on the site. Here you'll find many great info on all editions to the 
    Tekken-series. Also this site features the best forum on Tekken out there. 
    But the site is down for awhile, why I don't know, but it better be up 
    "The non-stop source for everything Tekken-related". If you're
    beginner, intermediate or expert, who cares, this is the place to go if you 
    like Tekken. They have great updates, moves sections, FAQs, combo's sections 
    and best of all, Castel's movies are the bomb. It's a must to see those 
    movies if you visit, no matter what it takes. The staff keep the Tekken 
    Community informed on their tippy-toes with hot news and knowledge. They 
    deserve all the credit they can get with their hard work. Recently they've 
    opened a brand new message forum, and y'know what, it's already full with 
    discussions and interactions This site is sooper, ain't nothin' to it.
    Inside Tekken, Abrar's cool new site focused on TTT. You'll find nice
    updates there, good movies and neat FAQs. Also check out the great (and not 
    to mention ORIGINAL) articles section, which allows you to post an article 
    about a certain issue on Tekken you can share with the visitors. It's kinda 
    like an editorial, but better. check out the cool articles by ETP and 
    mIrAge. Also there's a cool forum there, which I also visit from time to 
    time. Check it out!
    Official site of TTT. You'll find some great updates and game-info
    here. Check out the movies as well. There's also a message board for some 
    "in-depth discussions".
    I'd be stoopid if I forgot ol' fighters.net. Check out their great
    stuff on TTT, with awesome movies on the upcoming console version, which 
    have to be seen to be believed. Their FAQ archives are excellent as well as 
    the updates that keeps any fightng game-freak informed to the max. The hard 
    work of the staff (tigeraid, Faceless, Three-11, Mr.MG) has resulted one of 
    the most well organised sites I know. There forum is also a great place to 
    share your knowledge with other gamerz around the globe. This site deserves 
    big props, tell me about it.
    This is the site where you can find the best FAQ archives on videogames on 
    the web. Here you'll find all the info you need on whatever videogame you 
    like. If you're stuck on a game, if you want some codes or want to submit a 
    FAQ or Review, GameFAQs is your place! GameFAQs rules, they are the most 
    popular in FAQ archives on computer games around the web! They have the most 
    reliable methods on contributing FAQs, simply because of the fact that they 
    won't take ripoffs of other FAQs. I'm giving big props to GameFAQs!
    Check out this new great site hosted by E-MAN, one of the many loyal
    Tekkenplayers who shares knowledge at the Inside tekken and Tekken Salute 
    forums. This site will be focussed on the Fillipino Tekken scene, it 
    features a great movie on chrouchbuffering the Chains of
    Misery(FC,df,d,df+1+2) with Bryan, with a sadistically cool sountrack from 
    Yhe Prodigy. Check it out yourself, this will be one of the best unofficial 
    tekkensites of the future, I tell ya!
    This site is webmastered by Mr.MG, one of the staff members of fighters.net, 
    which is about the arcades in London, and the activities and so on. You have 
    some good info here, and also the results from the Tekken London Showdown 
    where some well-known players around Europe have participated in, including 
    myself. I'll give special credit too him, for his hard work to keep us 
    gamers happy, and his generosity.
    This is Sauer Krauts new site on Tekken Tag Tournament, and it already 
    rocks!! Here you will find tips on general play, strategies, multimedia, and 
    tons and tons of combo's. The Kraut himself has some great wisdom on Ogre 
    and he still has the best Ogre Guide out there. This great site is a great 
    way to easily find good combo's and good strats. It's like a Manual in 
    pixels. A great pie-a-work and it's still under construction. Who knows what 
    the Kraut has in store for us Tekken players in the future. A MUST visit for 
    the hardcore Tekken player.
    As my FAQ is thru I want to thank the following individuals for their
    - Reverend C: For his great technical Tekken knowledge he has giving me the 
    last couple of weeks, and some fun discussions. Also check out his awesome 
    FAQs on Kazuya, Nina, Anna and Heihachi. Also, I'm currenty writing a 
    comprehensive character guide with him, so keep your eyes open for that one. 
    Huge credits to him.
    - The contributers of the "Ask the Experts" section for submitting their 
    great knowledge, to bring it to a larger scale of players. Too bad I haven’t 
    gotten enough responses this time to make a section out of it, so my 
    apologies to the people who did submit for not doing the section this time. 
    Thanks for your time and knowledge and hopefully, my next FAQ will have 
    enough responnses to do another round of “Ask The Experts”
    - Castel and the rest of the Tekken Zaibatsu staff for their
    awesome knowledge on Tekken and doing so much for the Tekken Community, and 
    of course their kickass movies. You guys rule, no doubt about that!
    - Fighters.net for their kewl TTT section and awesome movies.
    - Catlord for his savage-ass FAQ on TTT. Keep up the work!
    - Rehan, Harry, Martin, Wing, The Chief, Devilman, Amrej, Mr.MG, Ryan Hart, 
    Claka, KRY and others for being awesome players in the London Tourny, you 
    all have mad skillz, and you all proved to be some of the best in Europe. I 
    thought was great fun competing with you guys, we ought to play again 
    - Gokmen, Damsko Kazuya, King the 2nd and The Amature, for being great 
    fellow players from Holland, all of you guys have great skillz, I hope to 
    play you guys some more soon, since we only live 45minutes distance from 
    each other, so we oughtta meet up more.
    - Red King (check out his Jin FAQ), Simone and Sandro, for being awesome 
    competition from Italy. You guys have amazing skills, and I'm glad to have 
    competed with you all in the London Tournament.
    - tragic, QDogg, Gargoyle Sox, 7th Pixel, Notti, shauno, Sauer Kraut(aka 
    SauerChoke), Jorkie (I will definately find a way to meet up and play you 
    d00d), Joshic, SuperT, et3rustee, abrar (check out his Kuma FAQ, and his 
    awesome site, Inside Tekken), mIrAge, drumdude, Cinder, SmuvMoney (check out 
    his King FAQ), Dalamar (check out his Lei FAQ), my_3rd_eye, aviax, kishmomo, 
    Thunder Fist, Ug The Caveman, JoeKing, MC and The_Chink (sorry if I forgot 
    someone, but to make it short, thanks to everyone who I've interacted with 
    in the past) for their awesome Tekken-knowledge shared many times over 
    around the web, without you guys Tekken would never be as alive as now.
    - Namco, for making one of the best game-series on the friggin' market. You 
    fella's are tha bomb!
    - KoRn and Limp Bizkit, for making awesome music to listen to when and where 
    ever I play Tekken, to keep my blood pumped with adrenaline. I swear the 
    god, it's been proven you play better listening to your fav records than 
    when you are playing in silence. Besides, the louder the music, the less you 
    are distracted my the opponents trash talking phrases, lol....Look for the 
    ads.....I just wish most Arcades had the balls to play something else than 
    just that Dance or Trance or whatever that music's called...
    - Myself, for writing this guide (I KNEW I forgot someone...)
    - God, for helping me thru difficult times and for always answering my 
    - And finally, you, the one currently reading this, thanks for taking a look 
    at my FAQ, I hope you liked it. If you have any comments on it,
    corrections or your own idea's e-mail me at renickironfist@hotmail.com to 
    contact me. Everyone's opinion means a lot to me ^_^
    "While yer travlin' round tha world,
    Jody's home with your best girl
    Next time I get a three day pass
    I'm gonna WS+2 ol' Jody's *peep*"
    - Renick.
    The End.

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