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This FAQ is written by, copyright 2000, and owned by, John Mayfield E-mail: email@example.com ICQ: 69395922 (3pwood) This FAQ and everything in it is protected by International Copyright Law. Don't sell it, don't edit it, and don't take my name off it. If you do decide to use this FAQ on your web page, I would appreciate it if you would let me know (just so that I know where my FAQ is being used). And be sure to keep up with the updates. All Capcom characters and series are (c) Capcom Co., Ltd. Strider is (c) Moto Kikaku. All Marvel characters are (c) Marvel Characters, Inc. (I yoinked that bit from Kao's FAQ. I figure the guy must know how not to get in trouble. I hope you don't mind, Kao.) ======================================================================= Contents: ======================================================================= 1. Key and conventions. 2. Move Descriptions 2.1 Normal Move Descriptions 2.2 Special Move Descriptions 2.3 Super Move Descriptions 2.4 Throws 2.5 Assists, Counters, Team supers, and Snapback 3. Combos 3.1 Combo Conventions 3.2 Magic Series 3.3 Superless Combos 3.4 Super Combos 3.5 Combo Segment Explanations 3.6 Combo Chart 3.7 Helpers in Combos 3.8 Infinite Combos 4. Strategy 4.1 Fighting People 4.2 Advanced Techniques 4.3 Best Partners 4.4 Best Teams 4.5 Fighting Abyss 5. Appendix 5.1 Condensed Move List 5.2 Move Damage and Hit Table 6. Thanks and Stuff 7. Update History 8. Contact Information ======================================================================= 1. Key and Conventions ======================================================================= F = Joystick pushing toward your opponent B = Joystick pushing away from your opponent U = Joystick pushing up D = Joystick pushing down (Diagonals will be specified as combinations. For example DB = Joystick pushing diagonally down and away from your opponent) qcf = Quarter circle forward (d,df,f) qcb = Quarter circle back (d,db,b) hcf = Half circle forward (b,db,d,df,f) hcb = Half circle back (f,df,d,db,b) Button layout: (Jab) (Fierce) (Assist 1) O O O O O O (Short) (Roundhouse) (Assist 2) (Strong, and Forward (medium punch and kick respectively) are used by tapping the jab or short button, at the appropriate point in a combo.) P = Tap any punch button PP = Tap both punch buttons K = Tap any kick button KK = Tap both kick buttons A1 = Tap the Assist 1 button A2 = Tap the Assist 2 button c.* = Specifies Crouching state during a button press (For example: c.fierce) s.* = Specifies Standing state during a button press j.* = Specifies Jumping state during a button press sj.* = Specifies Super Jumping state during a button press / = or + = and , = then ======================================================================= 2. Move Descriptions ======================================================================= 2.1 Normal Move Descriptions ---------------------------- This is just a basic description of the moves. For information regarding unusual comboing properties of these moves, please see the combo segment explanations (section 3.5). Jab --- s.jab: Magneto thrusts his palm forward and a small blast of energy extends from it. Fast, decent priority, the energy blast gives it more range than most jabs, but it hits rather high, missing ducking opponents. Use sparingly. c.jab: Almost identical to the standing jab, but this one hits lower. It can still be blocked high, however. This means that except for having slightly more range than it's kick counterpart, anything the c.jab can do, the c.short can do better. j.jab: Magneto quickly swipes in front of himself with his hands, leaving behind some sort of blue energy. Quick, decent priority. The hit area is poorly placed for attacking someone on the ground, But this move might be useful for air to air combat. Short ----- s.short: Magneto lets loose with a very awkward looking low kick. The range isn't that great, but it is fast, and it will OTG (Hit an opponent that is laying on the ground). Better than the s.jab in that it will hit ducking opponents. c.short: The standard ducking short. Magneto shifts his weight to his rear leg and slides his front foot out in a fast, short range kick. Quick, decent range, hits low. This is probably your weak attack of choice. j.short: Magneto sticks his leg straight out at a right angle. The only Time you might want to use this is for starting multi-hit jump-ins. You can also get what is essentially his c.short, while in the air by pressing df+short, but there doesn't seem to be much point to it. Strong ------ s.strong: Magneto turns sideways and lets loose an energy-encased uppercut. Launches. Range isn't that great. Seeing as It can't be used outside of combos, you can't use this as an anti air. Misses some ducking opponents. Use sparingly c.strong: Magneto sends a little globe of energy sliding along the ground. Knocks your opponent off his feet, effectively ending any opportunity that might have existed to land some longer combo. Can be blocked high. Not-so-good recovery Use sparingly. j.strong: Magneto extends his fists, and a small spike of energy emerges. Good speed, and priority. Excellent recovery. Combos well. Only usable within combos, but it does its job there nicely. Forward ------- s.forward: Magneto brings his leg, trailing energy, in an arc up to where he could lick his knee (agile old bastard isn't he?). Not a bad move in and of itself, it has good range, speed, priority, and recovery, but there is almost always a better move to use. Use primarily in blocked combos, try following it up with an EM Disruptor. c.forward: A slightly extended version of his c.short. Quick coming out. Takes longer to recover than it looks like. There is almost always a better move to use than this one. j.forward: Magneto brings one leg up, trailing energy, in an upward kick. Not a bad move, but it doesn't have any characteristics that make it particularly useful either. Fierce ------ s.fierce: Magneto whips his arm across in front of himself. An energy field extends from, and trails, his arm. Excellent range, excellent priority, excellent speed and decent recovery. This move is still rarely used because it can't set up any combos, and it misses many ducking opponents. If you run into someone who's particularly dash-happy, though, let 'em have it. (this is the move animation used for Magneto's snapback) c.fierce: Magneto gestures upward with his hands and two trails of energy spiral upward. Decent priority, not the greatest. Has less range than it might look like. Launches. This is magneto's main launcher. You might be tempted to try to use this as an anti-air move, but seeing as it has only decent priority, and doesn't hit quite where it looks like it should, I'd advise against it. Curiously, df+fierce is slightly more damaging than a regular c.fierce. j.fierce: Magneto whips his fists together at a 45 degree angle downward, and when they connect, a substantial burst of energy emerges. Fast, good priority, decent range. A good move, but not as good as j.roundhouse. Roundhouse ---------- s.roundhouse: Magneto lets loose with two upward-arcing kicks. The first kick lifts the opponent off the ground slightly and the second one launches them into the air. Quick, OK recovery. Blocked attempts are easily covered with an EM Disruptor. Not a bad move, but the sharply horizontal angle at which it launches your opponent makes it undesirable as a launcher. c.roundhouse: Magneto slides forward with one energy encased foot extended. Excellent priority, hits low, and has a quick startup, but has some pretty bad recovery time. Be sure to cancel this move into something safe, or cover yourself with an assist, if it is blocked j.roundhouse: Magneto extends his leg downward at a 45 degree angle, with an accompanying blast of energy. Possibly Magneto's single best normal move. It has just the right angle that makes it perfect for jump-ins. It is fast, has wonderful priority, is easy to combo off of, and can even be used as a cross-up. 2.2 Special Move Descriptions ----------------------------- EM Disruptor hcf+p [b,db,d,df,f+p] (air or ground) Magneto fires a quick, wide, single-hit beam from one palm. This beam has some recovery time. It is quick enough that your opponent won't be able to dash over and hit you if it is blocked at a relatively long range, but if you do it up close and it is blocked, you might have a problem. Seeing as it is only one hit, if there is any sort of projectile in the air between you and your opponent, your beam will just destroy the projectile, doing absolutely nothing to your opponent. Also, the EM disruptor can not be super canceled during a normal jump. Hyper Grav hcb+k [f,df,d,db,b+k] (air or ground) Magneto poses and four energy spheres form, flying out towards the enemy (that's right, not just straight forward, they track your opponent). If these spheres hit, your opponent will be carried by the spheres, to hover helpless in front of you. Slow startup but there's a big payoff if it connects. I'd advise using this primarily to cover your helpers from across the screen, or, sparingly, as an anti-air move. Also, Hyper Grav can not be super canceled during a normal jump. Magnetic Blast [u,uf,f+p] (air only) Magneto does what's essentially his j.jab, but this time, the energy arc's are pink, and they fly downward at a 45 degree angle. Magneto's air fireball. This move isn't particularly fast, or damaging, but neither is it lacking in any particular area. I only use it for a bit of a mix-up now and then. Use it as you see fit. Also, the Magnetic Blast can not be super canceled during a normal jump. Forcefield hcf+k [b,db,d,df,f+k] (ground only) Magneto poses and, for a split second, erects a forcefield around himself. If your enemy attempts a physical attack (not a projectile) during the time the forcefield is up, Magneto will counter. How he counters depends on what button you use. If you use short, the forcefield will briefly become charged with energy, and will knock your opponent away. If you use roundhouse, magneto will counter with a single Magnetic Shockwave blast. The counter is faster if you use short, it is also more likely to hit, because it basically encases magneto. The roundhouse version does more damage, and can be used to start combos. Flight qcb+kk [d,db,b+kk] (air or ground) Magneto lifts off into the air and flies for a limited amount of time. You control his movement with the joystick. You cannot block while flying. You can call in assists while flying. To cancel your flight, prematurely just repeat the qcb+kk motion. Air dash [hold a direction, and press pp] (air only...obviously) Magneto will dash quickly in the direction you hold. Can be used to interrupt normal moves. This is basically just used to be tricky (jumping, then immediately air dashing down towards a ducking opponent and attacking, and other such things), or in combos (which will be explained in the combo section) 2.3 Super Move Descriptions --------------------------- Magnetic Shockwave qcf+pp [d,df,f+pp] (ground only) Magneto slams one fist into the ground and a giant...uh...Magnetic Shockwave...emerges. If it connects, it bounces the opponent along in a somewhat comical fashion, hitting multiple times along the way. The shockwave is quite high, extending to not quite maximum super jump height (meaning it can be jumped over. Watch out). It is fairly easy to combo, and does decent damage. It's drawbacks are that if it is done in a corner, it will only do a couple hits, and if it is blocked in a corner, or pushblocked up close, it is easily punishable. Magnetic Tempest qcf+kk [d,df,f+kk] (air or ground) Magneto takes the same stance he does for a Hyper Grav. Chunks of metal begin forming around him and flying away. Almost the entire screen is covered, the only safe place being behind Magneto. The Magnetic Tempest has a slow startup. But it also does great damage, is nearly impossible to counter if blocked, and can be comboed into and out of. 2.4 Throws ---------- b/f + fierce: Magneto grabs his opponent, and several chunks of metal (air/ground) form on him. Magneto then flings his opponent away. The enemy is temporarily immobilized by the metal chunks. Human opponents usually free themselves quickly by moving the joystick and pressing the buttons, but against the computer this throw will give you a free combo. Also note that when you throw someone in the air, they can't shake out until they've stopped bouncing. Best used by throwing your opponent into a corner.. b/f + roundhouse: Magneto grabs his opponent (by the groin, on many (air/ground) characters) and charges them with some sort of energy, which I assume is magnetic, before flinging them away. This throw will leave your opponent lying on the ground. Try to dash over and kick him. If you throw your opponent into a corner, you can hit him with a c.fierce before he even touches the ground. This throw can be directed downward on the ground, and up or down, in the air. Hold the joystick to determine the direction. The default throws your opponent forward. 2.5 Assists, Counters, Team Supers, and Snapback ------------------------------------------------ Assists: Alpha- EM disruptor Beta - Short Hyper Grav Gamma- c.fierce I personally prefer Alpha type. It's quick and has good priority. So much so that it can often be used like an anti-air assist, to get some room when your opponent is up close. There are some merrits to Beta type, like the ability to counter into Hyper Grav XX Tempest, but it's generally not used. And you can forget about Gamma type...it's just altogether pooty. Counters: Alpha- EM disruptor Beta - Short Hyper Grav Gamma- c.fierce Team Supers: Alpha- Magnetic Shockwave Beta - Magnetic Tempest Gamma- Magnetic Tempest Snapback: Magneto's snapback uses his s.fierce animation, which means it can miss ducking opponents. My advice is to combo into it off the first hit of a s.roundhouse. It'll pop them up to the proper height. ======================================================================= 3. Combos ======================================================================= 3.1 Combo Conventions --------------------- In this FAQ, I will be using what has come to be known as James Chen combo notation, after it's inventor: -> signifies a chain combo. It says that to get from one hit to the next, you should be making use of your character's magic series. XX Buffering. Signifies a special or super cancel. It says that you should be interrupting the animation of one move with that of the following special or super move. , Linking. Signifies a pause. This means that you should wait until the current move is completed, and the next move will be fast enough to combo on it's own. \/ Landing. You should have been in the air before this, and should be on the ground after this. /\ Super jumping. Just super jump when you see this mark. OTG Just means that you will be hitting your opponent while he or she is laying on the floor. It stands for "Off The Ground." () Other things I think are important, like dashing and such, will appear inside parentheses. Example: j.roundhouse \/ c.short -> c.fierce /\ sj.jab -> sj.short -> sj.strong, sj.short -> sj.forward XX EM Disruptor Translation: Jump in with roundhouse. Land. Hit with a crouching short, chained into a crouching fierce. Super jump up after your opponent and hit with a super jumping jab, chained into a super jumping short, chained into a super jumping strong. now wait until the strong finishes, and hit with another super jumping short. Chain that into a super jumping forward, and cancel that into an EM Disruptor. Got it? 3.2 Magic Series ---------------- If you don't know what a magic series is, it's the extremely goofy and annoying term for the sequence in which chain combos (combos using normal attacks, chained together in a sequence) can be done. Each character has three different magic series. Which one is used is determined by whether the character is on the ground, jumping, or super jumping. The button layout has changed in MvC2 (which you probably knew..heh heh), but I will still be drawing the magic series diagrams as if it hadn't: (jab) (strong) (fierce) O O O O O O (short) (forward)(Roundhouse) The magic series diagrams will be numbered button layouts. You can press the buttons in the order shown, to get a chain combo. You can skip forward, but not back. So, finally: (Ground) (Jumping) (Super Jumping) 1 2 2 1 3 5 1 3 5 1 2 2 2 4 6 2 4 6 3.3 Superless Combos -------------------- For explanations of how to do the trickier parts of these combos, refer to section 3.5, Combo Segments. -All damages given are vs Cable (average damage tier), on damage setting 2. -A full life bar is 143 points long, so to find the % damage done by each combo, just divide the number given by 143. - '~' signifies an aproximate damage when variable damage moves are used. 1) j.roundhouse \/ c.short-> c.fierce /\ sj.jab-> sj.short-> sj.strong-> sj.forward XX EM Disruptor [53 damage] 2) j.roundhouse \/ c.short-> c.fierce /\ sj.jab-> sj.short-> sj.strong-> sj.forward XX air dash (diagonally up and forward) sj.jab-> sj.short-> sj.strong-> sj.forward XX EM Disruptor [56 damage] 3) j.roundhouse \/ c.short-> c.fierce /\ sj.jab-> sj.short-> sj.strong, sj.jab-> sj.short-> sj.strong-> sj.forward XX air dash (diagonally up and forward) sj.jab-> sj.short-> sj.strong-> sj.forward XX EM Disruptor [56 damage] 4) j.roundhouse \/ c.short-> c.fierce /\ sj.roundhouse XX air dash (diagonally down and forward) sj.short-> sj.forward \/ c.fierce /\ sj.jab-> sj.short-> sj.strong, sj.jab-> sj.short-> sj.strong-> sj.forward XX air dash (up) sj.jab-> sj.short-> sj.strong-> sj.forward XX EM Disruptor [74 damage] 5) Throw with roundhouse, (dash), OTG c.short-> c.roundhouse XX Hyper Grav, c.fierce /\ sj.roundhouse XX air dash (diagonally down and forward) sj.short-> sj.forward \/ c.fierce /\ sj.jab-> sj.short-> sj.strong, sj.jab-> sj.short-> sj.strong-> sj.forward XX air dash (up), sj.jab-> sj.short-> sj.strong-> sj.forward XX EM Disruptor [81 damage] 6) Throw with roundhouse, (dash), OTG c.short-> c.roundhouse XX Hyper Grav, c.fierce /\ sj.roundhouse XX air dash (diagonally down and forward) sj.short-> sj.forward \/ c.fierce /\ sj.jab-> sj.short-> sj.strong, sj.jab-> sj.short-> sj.strong-> sj.forward XX air dash (up), sj.jab-> sj.short-> sj.strong, sj.jab-> sj.short-> sj.strong-> sj.forward->sj.fierce->sj.roundhouse 3.4 Super combos ---------------- For explanations of how to do the trickier parts of these combos, refer to section 3.5, Combo Segments. -All damages given are vs Cable (average damage tier), on damage setting 2. -A full life bar is 143 points long, so to find the % damage done by each combo, just divide the number given by 143. - '~' signifies an aproximate damage when variable damage moves are used. 1) j.roundhouse \/ c.short-> c.fierce XX Magnetic Shockwave [80 damage] 2) j.roundhouse \/ c.short-> c.fierce /\ sj.jab-> sj.short-> sj.strong-> sj.forward XX Hyper Grav XX Magnetic Tempest, sj.short-> sj.forward XX EM Disruptor [~89 damage] 3) j.roundhouse \/ s.short-> s.roundhouse (first hit only) XX hyper grav XX Magnetic Tempest, OTG c.short-> c.roundhouse XX Hyper Grav XX Magnetic Tempest [~110 damage] 4) j.roundhouse \/ c.short-> c.fierce /\ sj.jab-> sj.short-> sj.strong-> sj.forward XX air dash (diagonally up and forward), sj.jab-> sj.short-> sj.strong-> sj.forward XX Hyper Grav XX Magnetic Tempest, sj.short-> sj.forward XX Hyper Grav XX Magnetic Tempest, sj.short-> sj.forward XX EM disruptor [~112 damage] 5) j.roundhouse \/ c.short-> c.fierce /\ sj.roundhouse XX air dash (diagonally down and forward), sj.short-> sj.forward \/ s.roundhouse (first hit only) XX Magnetic Shockwave. [90 damage] 6) j.roundhouse \/ c.short-> c.fierce /\ sj.roundhouse XX air dash (diagonally down and forward), sj.short-> sj.forward \/ c.fierce /\ sj.jab-> sj.short-> sj.strong, sj.jab-> sj.short-> sj.strong XX Hyper Grav XX Magnetic Tempest, OTG sj.roundhouse \/ c.roundhouse XX Hyper Grav, s.roundhouse (first hit only) XX Hyper Grav XX Magnetic Tempest [~134 damage] 7) j.roundhouse \/ c.short-> c.fierce /\ sj.roundhouse XX air dash (diagonally down and forward), sj.short-> sj.forward \/ s.roundhouse (first hit only) XX Hyper Grav XX Magnetic Tempest, OTG c.short-> c.roundhouse XX Hyper Grav, c.fierce /\ sj.jab-> sj.short-> sj.strong-> sj.forward XX Hyper Grav XX Magnetic Tempest [~130 damage] 8) j.roundhouse \/ c.short-> c.fierce /\ sj.roundhouse XX air dash (diagonally down and forward), sj.short-> sj.forward \/ s.roundhouse (first hit only) XX Hyper Grav XX Magnetic Tempest, OTG c.short-> c.roundhouse XX Hyper Grav, c.fierce /\ sj.jab-> sj.short-> sj.strong-> sj.forward XX Hyper Grav XX Magnetic Tempest, sj.jab-> sj.short-> sj.strong-> sj.forward XX air dash (up or diagonally up and forward), sj.jab-> sj.short-> sj.strong, sj.jab-> sj.short-> sj.strong-> sj.forward XX Hyper Grav XX Magnetic Tempest, sj.short-> sj.forward XX Hyper Grav XX Magnetic Tempest, sj.short-> sj.forward XX EM Disruptor [143+ damage, fatal] 3.5 Combo Segment Explanations ------------------------------ 1) [...sj.forward XX air dash (diagonally up and forward) sj.jab->...] As I said earlier, you can cancel normal moves into magneto's air dash. You can also do normal moves during the air dash. This is simply making use of those two properties to "reset" Magneto's magic series, mid-combo. As with allot of Magneto's more advanced combos, it's recommended that you have quick fingers. 2) [...c.fierce /\ sj.roundhouse XX air dash (diagonally down and forward) sj.short-> sj.forward \/ c.fierce] OK, the reason this one works is a bit technical. There's a property of the flying screen effect (where you hit your opponent away, they go flying, and the screen follows them, not you) that makes moves that normally would cause the flying screen, like that sj.roundhouse, not cause the flying screen if it's the first jumping hit that has connected after the first hit in a given combo. Note that none of the combos that use this technique can be started from a multi-hit jump-in. The reason that is important, is that during the flying screen effect, some moves (all specials and supers, I believe) are not allowed. This includes the air dash. For the same reason, the properties of the flying screen, this sequence cannot be used as an infinite. The second time you attempted the sj.roundhouse, it would cause the flying screen and end the combo. As for the execution of this maneuver, it'll take some practice. Try to hit your opponent with the sj.roundhouse as soon as possible, so as to Keep your opponent low to the ground. Also, press short and forward *slowly* to make your opponent lose enough altitude for the c.fierce to connect. 3) [...c.fierce /\ sj.roundhouse XX air dash (diagonally down and forward) sj.short-> sj.forward \/ s.roundhouse...] This uses the same principle as #2. The only differences are that you don't need to get your opponent quite as low for the s.roundhouse to connect, and that you usually want to cancel the roundhouse after the first hit. The second hit, is a somewhat undesirable launcher. 4) [...OTG c.short-> c.roundhouse XX Hyper Grav...] For some odd reason, if you use the c.roundhouse as the second hit after an OTG, your opponent will be launched in a high arc over your head. This allows for the Hyper Grav, with it's slow execution, to connect cleanly. The only real hang-up people seem to have with this one is that the Hyper Grav is a half circle motion (f,df,d,db,b + K). This means that you can't just roll the stick from down (it's position from doing the c.roundhouse) to back, but you have to go from down to forward, and then roll to back. 5) [sj.forward->sj.fierce->sj.roundhouse] This is pretty straightforward. Due to their similar angles, and the sj.roundhouse's speed, this will combo if you do it quickly. I find that it is easier to connect the higher your opponent is in relation to you. But be careful, the sj.fierce hits at a downward angle, if your opponent is too high, it will miss. This combo segment does more damage than the standard EM Disruptor combo ender. 6) [...XX Hyper Grav XX Magnetic Tempest...] You know how when you do a super, the screen freezes for an instant? Well as it turns out, not everything freezes in that instant. Hyper Gravs move some. So, if you do a hyper grav, and cancel it almost immediately into the Tempest, the "super charge freeze" of the Tempest will allow the Hyper Gravs to combo after many things. Your opponent will then be pulled into the tempest. This maneuver must be done quickly, but it is possible to do it *too* quickly. If you are doing it too slowly, the hyper gravs won't combo. If you are doing it too quickly, the hyper gravs will not even form, but you will hear Magneto say "Hyper Grav." Either strength Hyper Grav will work, though I personally use roundhouse for the added range. NOTE: This combo can be "shaken out of." If someone mashes the buttons and shakes the joystick quickly enough after being hit with the Hyper Grav, he will be released before the Magnetic Tempest hits. :( This escape is actualy not so easy as it sounds. 7) [...sj.strong, sj.jab...] The strong has a fast enough recovery, and the jab has a quick enough start up, that this will combo. The timing takes a bit of practice. In my opinion, this is just to show off, unless you need the extra hits to build your super meter for a tempest at the end of the air combo. 8) [...magnetic tempest, OTG c.short...] and [...magnetic tempest, sj.short...] or [...magnetic tempest, sj.jab...] The magnetic tempest has a quick enough recovery that you can usually just combo off of it. Be warned that the magnetic tempest is somewhat random. Consequently, the opportunity for comboing after it is somewhat varied in each instance. It is sometimes possible to connect with a c.fierce before the enemy even hits the ground, and it is sometimes difficult to combo much of anything from the tempest in the air, but *usually* these options are fairly reliable. 9) [...sj.strong/forward XX Hyper Grav XX Magnetic Tempest, OTG sj.roundhouse \/ c.roundhouse XX Hyper Grav] One of the odd properties of the Magnetic Tempest is that though you stay still during the super, you actually retain whatever momentum you had when the Tempest begun. So, for example, if you were to do a "tiger knee" Magnetic tempest (rolling the joystick from d to uf and pressing both kicks immediately after the motion makes you super jump) you would stop a little bit off the ground, do your magnetic tempest, and then after the tempest was finished, you would shoot straight up into the air to continue your super jump. I suppose you're wondering what bearing any of this has on this particualr combo segment, so I'll tell you. The object is to have a decent ammount of downward monentum when you combo the tempest, so that after the tempest is over, and your opponent falls, you can fall fast enough to keep up with him and combo him some more. this can be accomplished by either doing the normal four-hit super jumping chain (sj.jab-> sj.short-> sj.strong-> sj.forward) slowly, or by doing the extended super jumping combo (sj.jab-> sj.short-> sj.strong, sj.jab-> sj.short-> sj.strong). The rest of the combo is pretty simple, you just kick your grounded opponent as you are falling, and then do a c.roundhouse once you land. The c.roundhouse will pop your opponent up just like in combo segment #4. (The combo this segment is based on was dontated by Caliber X to The KiD's MvC2 combo faq, which is where I saw it. Permission to use it was asked and recieved from Caliber X) 3.6 Combo Chart --------------- Something I'm trying out. It's always bugged me that most combos are given in list form, when the structure of the combo system is actually more akin to a chart or tree, with various combo options branching off at various points. I thought that this might be a good way to display some of that form. Just follow along the chart, moving in the directions that the arrows indicate, branching in whatever directions you choose, and you should come up with a legitimate combo. Please keep in mind that this chart does not display all combo options. Far from it, actually. (start) (start) (start) (start) V------<----- c.short-> s.short-> | j.roundhouse j.fierce-> c.fierce s.roundhouse | | j.roundhouse | (1st hit only) | | | | | | | | V V | V V ----->-V-<------------- ---------------------------- | | | | | Magnetic | V | Shockwave | --------------------- V | | | --------V V | | | sj.roundhouse Hyper Grav XX | V | air dash (DF) Magnetic Tempest | s.short-> | sj.short -> | | s.forward XX | sj.forward V | EM Disruptor | | OTG c.short-> V | | c.roundhouse c.fierce | | | | | | V | | | Hyper Grav | | | | | | | ------------------- | | | | | | | | V V V V | | c.fierce Magnetic Magnetic | | | Shockwave Tempest | | | | | | | V V V ----------------------------------------------------------------- | | | | | V V V V V Magnetic sj.jab-> sj.jab-> sj.jab-> sj.jab-> Shockwave sj.short-> sj.short-> sj.short-> sj.short-> sj.strong-> sj.strong-> sj.strong-> sj.strong, sj.forward XX sj.forward XX sj.forward XX sj.jab-> EM Disruptor Hyper Grav XX Air dash (UF) sj.short-> Magnetic | sj.strong-> Tempest | sj.forward-> | | Air dash (u/uf) | | | V | | ------------------------ | | | | | | V V | | sj.jab-> sj.short-> | | sj.strong XX sj.forward XX | | Air dash (UF) EM Disruptor | | | | | V V V ----------------------------------------------------------- | | | | V V V V sj.jab-> sj.jab sj.jab-> sj.jab-> sj.short-> sj.short sj.short-> sj.short-> sj.strong-> sj.strong sj.strong-> sj.strong-> sj.forward XX sj.jab sj.forward XX sj.jab-> Hyper Grav XX sj.short EM Disruptor sj.short-> Magnetic Tempest sj.strong sj.strong-> | sj.forward XX sj.forward XX | Magnetic Tempest EM Disruptor | | | | | | V V ------------------------------------- | | ---->----| --->---| | V | V (After too many | sj.short-> | sj.short-> repetitions, | sj.forward XX | sj.forward XX your | Hyper Grav XX | EM disruptor positioning or | Magnetic Tempest | momentum may | | | go awry) | V | ---<--------------->------ 3.7 Helpers in Combos --------------------- The general rule is one helper per-combo. That is, if a helper has already connected as part of a given combo, you cannot call any more helpers until that combo is over. Here are a few ways to stick some helpers into combos: 1) j.roundhouse \/ c.short-> c.fierce /\ sj.roundhouse XX Air Dash (DF) sj.d+short-> sj.forward \/ c.fierce (call cyclops beta assist) /\ (quickly) sj.jab-> sj.short-> sj.strong-> sj.forward XX Hyper Grav (cyclops assist hits) (hyper grav hits) \/ c.fierce, (air combo) NOTE: The hyper grav can be shaken out of. 2) j.ronudhouse \/ c.short-> c.fierce /\ sj.roundhouse XX Air Dash (DF) sj.d+short-> sj.forward \/ (call Akuma gamma assist) s.roundhouse (first hit only) XX Hyper Grav, s.roundhouse (first hit only) XX Hyper Grav XX Magnetic Tempest, OTG c.short-> c.roundhouse XX Hyper Grav, c.fierce /\ (air combo) 3) c.short-> c.roundhouse (call OTG capable DP assist [cable, ken, Captain America, etc.]) XX Hyper Grav, c.fierce /\ (air combo) 4) (Team of cable/beta-sabretooth/magneto) Starting with cable, jump, (call sabretooth assist in the air), j.roundhouse \/ (dash) s.short-> s.forward-> s.roundhouse XX Time Flip, (assist hits), (Time Flip hits), (Dash backwards), Short Electrap (hold the button down until it hits, and it should hit IMMEDIATELY after the time flip finishes), s.fiercex4 XX (switch to Magneto), (dash), c.fierce /\ sj.jab-> sj.short-> sj.strong, sj.jab-> sj.short-> sj.strong XX Hyper Grav XX Magnetic Tempest, (let your opponent fall to the floor) OTG sj.roundhouse \/ c.roundhouse XX Hyper Grav XX Magnetic Tempest (Immediately DHC the tempest into Sabretooth's Weapon X. With any luck, the Tempest shouldn't hit at all), (DHC to time flip), (dash backwards), short electrap (same as above), s.fiercex4 XX (switch to Magneto), (dash), c.fierce /\ sj.jab-> sj.short-> sj.strong, sj.jab-> sj.short-> sj.strong-> sj.forward XX air dash up sj.jab-> sj.short-> sj.strong-> sj.forward XX Hyper Grav XX Magnetic Tempest 3.8 Infinite Combos ------------------- I will not be held responsible for any damages or injuries that result from doing these combos on 7' 300lb ex-wrestlers named Mungo. Repeat the bracketed  section. 1) c.fierce /\ sj.roundhouse XX air dash (diagonally down and forward), sj.short-> sj.forward \/, [(jump) j.jab-> j.df+short-> j.strong] 2) (opponent in a corner) [Super Jump and hit your opponent on the way up with a sj.df+short XX air dash (diagonally down and forward), sj.df+short-> sj.forward \/] 3) (highly character specific. confirmed so far: Blackheart) (opponent in corner) Hyper Grav, [dash forward, s.fierce XX Hyper Grav] 4) Throw with roundhouse, dash forward, OTG [c.short-> c.roundhouse XX Super Jump, Immediately air dash down, sj.jab (whiffs), \/ ] 5) s.jab-> s.strong [/\ sj.jab-> sj.short-> sj.strong, sj.df+short-> sj.strong-> sj.forward \/] 6) (highly character specific. confirmed so far: Kobun[Servbot]) c.fierce /\ sj.roundhouse XX air dash (df) sj.df+short-> sj.roundhouse \/ [OTG c.short-> c.roundhouse] For movies of these infinites, and many more, I reccomend visiting: http://www.geocities.com/warganic/ That's where I got these. ======================================================================= 4. Strategy ======================================================================= 4.1 Fighting People ------------------- I don't feel that it would work well for me to detail my playing style, because it's just that. *My* playing style. And it may or may not work for you. What I will do is detail some tips and tricks that will, hopefully, help you. -You can often use Hyper Gravs to catch people coming down from super jumps. If you need it to come out faster, and are pretty confiident that you can predict the timing of your opponent's attacks, just do the Hyper Grav XX Magnetic tempest, cancel as if you were trying to combo it. -After a roundhouse throw, you can dash over and hit your opponent off the ground. If you throw your opponent into a corner, however, you can simply connect with a c.fierce, without giving your opponent a chance to roll. (also check "unrollable OTGs" in the Advanced Techniques section) -A good way to break through your opponent's defense is to jump and quickly air dash down and forward at them. Hopefully they will not have had enough time to switch to standing block. -Use an EM disruptor occasionally (from a safe distance) to keep your opponent on his guard. -If you manage to get close enough to a helper, launch them with a c.fierce, cancel to Hyper Grav, and then cancel to Magnetic Tempest. What will happen is this: If your opponent sees you launch his helper, and tries to retaliate, the Hyper Grav will hit him and pull him into the Tempest. If he doesn't try to retaliate, he will block the Hyper grav and the Tempest, leaving you safe. The helper will fall (Unable to block) into the Tempest regardless. When the Tempest is over, OTG the helper with c.short-> c.fierce, and repeat, for one severely messed up helper. It's quite a bit easier to do this without the Hyper Grav, but riskier too. -Against many characters, it is much safer to hit their helpers with a Magnetic Shockwave rather than a Tempset. Once the shockwave starts, it doesn't stop for anything, so their only real course of action is to super jump, or block...and neither option generally presents much oppourtunity for your opponent to kill you. NOTE: I recently saw some of the matches posted on shoryuken, between Duc and Valle, and it looked like they were able to get through the shockwave by simply staying above the level of their helper. I'll have to mess around with this a bit, but it seems very possible that each magnetic shockwave blast counts as a one hit non-penetrating beam, hitting upward. In that case, this could be a bit riskier than I had thought...still not many people are going to want to try to jump through a magnetic shockwave on faith. -Try using a roundhouse forcefield after a blocked c.roundhouse. Because of the long recovery on the roundhouse, your opponent will often try to retaliate, and will be hit by the counter. Dash over and hit him with c.short->c.roundhouse XX Hyper Grav, and do whatever you want to him. -Throw. Throw alot. Magneto is capable of being absolutely overwhelming up-close, and one of the ways people deal with that is to turtle and send out anti-air assists. By throwing you can break through their defense (possibly setting up a combo), make yourself invulnerable in case an assist is on the way, and give them some incentive not to turtle, which means more tempest combos for you. -Magneto, with his quick dash, and vertical launcher (c.fierce), is perhaps the best character to use for what I call "helper bouncing." Helper bouncing just involves repeatedly launching a helper, who is, of course, unable to block, for an easy sort of infinite combo. For this to work though, you can't have your opponent's active character on the screen, or he'd just come up and hit you. There are two major ways of creating this scenario. The first is simply to kill his active character while his helper is out, then go start launching the helper. The second is to snap your opponent back and launch his helper. Note that it is possible to hit both the assist and the active character with a snapback, then dash in, OTG the helper and begin launching. So if you ever happen to connect hit both an assist and a point character with Magneto, combo a snapback off the first hit of a s.roundhouse and kill that assister... then guardbreak, if you can. A new active character will not be sent in until all helpers leave the screen, and the helper won't leave the screen unless you let him hit the ground. I'm not one to preach about cheapness, but if you're just playing for fun, your opponent might find this...upsetting. -This one is...tricky. You remember the combos where you launch, then hit with a sj.roundhouse, dash DF, and are able to land again mid-combo? If you don't, go and read about them. If you do, you can try this. Do the launch, the sj.roundhouse, the dash, and the two kicks, then, as soon as you land, do a c.roundhouse, canceled into a Hyper Grav. You will slide under your opponent and the hyper grav will hit him from behind. Chances are that as long as you use this technique sparingly, your opponent will not block correctly, and will be at your mercy. While this is a very difficult, risky, and therefore impractical technique, I decided to include it because if someone were to get really good at this, it could make a nasty mix up. -This is more general strategy than Magneto-specific strategy, but when you're fighting someone who can punnish helpers well (cable, sentinel, etc...) try never to be near your helper. Either call out the helper and super jump forward so that any attempt at supering your helper will get them hit with a tempest combo, or call out your helper while jumping over your opponent. If, at any time, your helper seems vulnerable, super jump. -Alot of people have the tendancy to stand up twords the end of a multi-hit anti-air assist, especially if their opponent is on the other side of the screen. Of course, with Magneto's dash, it hardly matters if you're on the other side of the screen. Stick the low short 4.2 Advanced Techniques ----------------------- Wavedashing: Basically wavedashing is just canceling your dash with a crouch, and then dashing again. There are three main advantages to this: -As the beginning of most people's is faster than the end and you're canceling out the slow part, you dash faster. -Because you are going almost seemlessly from one dash into the next, you can dash as far as you want. This is really alot more useful for other characters than it is for Magneto, because he already has a full screen dash...I mean imagine Sentinel dashing under Doom's photons from full screen on reaction, then going up for an air combo. -You stay lower. With all those crouches in there you are generally lower to the ground, which can let you get under certain stuff like Doom's j.fierce, or a Megabuster. The motion for a wavedash is just 2P, d, 2P, d 2P... The trick to it is to press 2P before your character is in a full crouch. I'm not positive of the game mechanics but it seems as though during a transition state (standing up, crouching down, taking off from a jump, etc...) you are considered to be in the state you are leaving, and while you can not dash with 2P during a crouch, if you hit 2P quickly after d, you will still be considered standing. Guard Break: Well, first let me direct you to the excelent Guard breaking article on shoryuken.com (http://www.shoryuken.com/features/s000920.shtml) They explain this in far more detail than I'm going to bother with, but the gist of it is this: Excepting special moves, super moves, air dashes, and double jumps, you only get one action per normal jump. There are several things that count as actions, such as chain combos, supers, etc... but the important one is blocking. So in other words, you can only block once on a normal jump. The times during hich you count as being in a normal jump are as follows: -when you simply do a normal jump -after canceling flight -and most importantly, when your previous point character has been killed, and a new point character is jumping onto the screen. Basically you take advantage of these situations to get your opponent to block something, and then after he stops blocking, hit him with simething before he hits the ground and regains his ability to block. Check the article on shoryuken.com for some specifics Unrollable OTGs: Most every knockdown move, there is a very short period when your opponent is just hitting the ground, that he cannot roll, but he can be hit off the ground. You can tell whether or not you have successfully hit with an unrollable OTG depending on whether or not that tiny set of rings from the impact of your opponent hitting the floor comes out. If you OTG your opponent before they come out, it is impossible to roll. Some good times to use this are after a Pylocke AAA, and a roundhouse throw into a corner (it is possible to get an unrollable OTG off a roundhouse throw midscreen, but it's way too hard to be reliable. 4.3 Best Partners ----------------- Cyclops: His AAA (that's anti-air assist, for those of you who aren't up on your lingo) is absolutely wonderful for setting up Magneto's Tempest combos. Just call Cyclops out, and if he hits, dash over, super jump and hit your opponent with a nasy combo. Also his AAA can be used to extend Magneto's combos as in helper combo #1. Sentinel: His ground assist is also a great setup, and it keeps your opponnet pretty well pinned when used correctly along with a Magneto's j.roundhouse. Also, sentinel takes damage so well that you can call him out with out worrying too much about his safety. Cable: Magneto is primarily an up close fighter, Cable is...not. so they balance eachother out well. Also, if you manage to catch an assist with Cable's AAA, they are launched high. so if you can mannage to pin or kill your opponent in that time, you can punnish the assist severely when he comes down. And of course, while their assist is being hit by cable, they are deprived of the use of their assists, so it's much easier to apply some pressure. Also, alpha-assist cable isn't too shabby either. His beam will quickly and easily cut through any grounded players or assists, I Have found it especially useful for dealing with those who utilize Doom's AAA to keep Magneto at a distance. It is also possible to dash in quickly behind this assist, and combo off it. So if you don't have an AAA already, it might be wise to pick b-Cable...really it's just a matter of personal preferance. If you do have an AAA, as in the clasic a-mag/a-cable/b-cyclops team, go with a-cable. Storm: Like Sentinel, Storm's assist can Be used to clear the way for Magneto to get close, to aid in mixups, and to set up your combos. Something to keep in mind, is that Storm's projectile assist is actually more like a wave than a projectile. It's like each swirl appearing succesively in front of the other whithout any of them really having anything to do with one another. This means that it doesn't matter if some of the previous swirls have encountered Spiral's knives, Doom's rocks, a Proton Cannon, or an AHVB, the winds will continue. So basically you can think of Storm's alpha assist as a completely unstoppable, multi-hit projectile. Also the ability to DHC from a magnetic tempest to a Hail Storm helps Magneto out greatly. You can use it in a combo to get around 115 points of damage from a the most basic of Tempest air combos, and fatal results from multi-tempest combos. You can DHC into Hail Storm early to prevent your opponent from being able to mash out, or cancel on reacion if you see that you didn't get your Hyper Grav off (the Hail Storm will combo off the sj.forward). You can also use the Tempest XX Hail storm to, in effect, have nearly instant full screen coverage. If your opponent, is for instance, trying to keep you away with Cable/Doom, and he calls out a Doom assist, super jumps, does sj.fierce XX electrap, there normally isn't much Mags can do about it, but with storm as his second, wherever he is on the screen he can do a Magnetic Tempest, canceled immeditely to Hail storm and catch both Cable and Doom. Psylocke: Well she's all the rage nowadays. It's all about her assist. Psylocke assist works perfectly to give Magneto controll of a short pillar shaped area, half in front of him. Any time it hits, Magneto gets an unrollable OTG (see advanced techniques section), and basically just does whatever he wants to you. She also works as a good DHC for Magneto. When you get a combo with Psylocke and AC to Butterflies, you can then DHC to Magnetic Tempest, then often get a launch off before your opponent hits the ground. Oh, she does allow for a rather nice guard break though (j.jab, Psylocke-a assist, OTG c.short-> c.roundhouse XX Hyper Grav...) 4.4 Best Teams -------------- a-Magneto/a-Cable/b-Cyclops Basically, in this team, you have Cyclops in the back with his AAA, and you use him to set up Magneto's air combos and Cable's AHVB. Cyclops AAA can also bring down many fliers with that little optic bullet he shoots out at the end. Magneto comes out first in order to act as a battery (someone who builds super energy well) for Cable, and while Mags isn't the best battery in the world he usually does well enough that Cable will have a few levels by the time he comes in. The best way to build extra supers with Magneto seems to be to just be repeatedly pressing roundhouse whenever you're super jumping, cancel with an airdash when nescessary. He'll look a bit like a meter-building Storm, but shouldn't be so defensive. Magneto is more of a close-in offensive character, so airdash twords your enemy and come down on him with a roundhouse at the end of most every jump. Remember that a good long combo can build more than a full level. Of course you shouldn't go throwing out random roundhouses when you're fighting someone who can punish them easily, like Storm or Blackheart. a-Magneto/b-Blackheart/b-Cyclops Like the the previous team, this team makes Cyclops' AAA scary. If you get hit with it, you're going to be hit with either a Tempset combo, an Inferno XX Heart of Darkness, or Blackheart's infinite. All good reasons to be frightened. Basically with Magneto, you should be using Cyclops' AAA to set up your combos and to cut through the defensive assists of your enemy. Keep on top of your opponent; if they start super jumping, bring them down with an AAA from Blackheart, but watch out for helper punishing attempts (AHVB). I'm not completely sure of the game mechanics of it--probably something having to do with resetting the damage scaling on DHCs so that the damage on the next super isn't pathetic--but when you DHC from a magnetic tempest the few bits of metal shrapnel leftover from the tempest do a bunch of damage as the next super starts. So if you say...DHC from a Tempest air combo, into a Heart of Darkness, you get an extra little chunk of damage out of it. With Blackheart...well, I don't want to outline his entire strategy, but annoy your enemy with super jumping roundhouse demons, use the Inferno XX HOD as much as you want on everybody but cable and spiral, be sure to cancel any super jumping demons with an air dash in order to speed up your recovery. Jumping back Fierce can be used to get some room. c.short-> c.forward, is fast and has great priority; same with all of Blackheart's shorts. Use cyclops AAA as a setup for Inferno XX HOD, and for BH's infinite. Also you can use Cyclops AAA to pressure your opponent (sj.roundhouse XX air dash forward over your opponnet, sj.short \/ c.short+call cyclops-> c.forward, super jump, sj.roundhouse). And don't hit a good Cable with a HOD midscreen. He can AHVB you during your forced dash after flying screen. Cyclops is your cleanup crew. Following every Cyclops assist with a sj.roundhouse should have kept him relatively safe and given him some time to heal. Do alot of sj.roundhouses to build meter, and try to connect the j.d+roundhouse \/ s.short-> s.forward-> s.roundhouse XX Cyclone Kick (both hits) XX Super Optic Blast (QCF+KK) combo, and be sure to mash the buttons for extra damage on the super. Magneto-a/Storm-a/(Cyclops or Psylocke, anti-air) Well, most of the strategy involved in this team is detailed in the Best Partners section, but basically... you rush that shit down. Use Storm to clear a path for Magneto, and get in their face. Mix up your attacks with low hits, assists, downward air dashing attacks and throws. When you land a hit, kill them. Do a big Tempest combo and DHC into Hail storm. At that point, you can go a couple different ways; you can continue the rushdown, and when you land a hit, do a Lightining Storm air combo, and DHC to Psylocke (butterflies), and back into tempest, or you can run away with Storm. Chances are that first DHC you landed got you ahead for life, so now your opponent has to come to you. 4.5 Fighting Abyss ------------------ Form 1: Just do Magneto's six hit jumping magic series to him. Whenever Abyss is about to attack, just air dash up and forward, to land safely behind him. The only real exception to this is when he does his little "rain of spikes". It's tracking, so you can't escape by dashing over him. If you see him raise one hand straight up in the air, just block, then continue with the pattern. Form 2: (the easy way) Just stay back and shoot him with EM Disruptors. Watch out for his beams. When he submerges and sends out bubbles, you can either super jump and shoot them down with his Magnetic Blast (u,uf,f+P), try to Shoot them with EM Disruptors, and kick them with jumping and standing roundhouse if they get too close, or just use a Magnetic Tempest. (the funny way) Move in until you are almost touching him, then as time starts, jump forward over him, kicking him with j.roundhouse. He will shoot the other way and start to turn. As soon as he starts to turn, jump over him again, and repeat. If he does a beam during this, be careful not to use any attacks that might extend far enough through him to get you hit by the beam. If he does his super, though, you'll be screwed. Use the same strategy against the bubbles as is detailed in "the easy way." Form 3: If you have super energy (and you should after the first two forms), just jump up and Magnetic Tempest the ball (preferably while the monster is formed). If you don't have super energy, just jump up and hit the ball with a jumping magic series, until you do have super energy. The Magnetic Tempest really tears this guy up. ======================================================================= 5. Appendix (useful, or not so useful, information) ======================================================================= 5.1 Condensed Move List ----------------------- Angled Kick (air) df+short EM Disruptor (air/ground) hcf+p [b,db,d,df,f+p] Hyper Grav (air/ground) hcb+k [f,df,d,db,b+k] Force Field (ground) hcf+k [b,db,d,df,f+k] Magnetic Blast (air) [u,uf,f+p] Flight (air/ground) qcb+kk [d,db,b+KK] Air Dash (air) Hold any direction + pp Magnetic Shockwave (ground) qcf+pp [d,df,f+pp] Magnetic Tempest (air/ground) qcf+kk [d,df,f+kk] Launchers: c.fierce s.strong s.roundhouse (second hit) Assists: a - EM Disruptor b - short Hyper Grav g - c.fierce Team counters: a - EM Disruptor b - short Hyper Grav g - c.fierce Team supers: a - Magnetic Shockwave b - Magnetic Tempest g - Magnetic Tempest Snapback - s.fierce 5.2 Move Damage and Hit Table ----------------------------- -Moves are listed on the left. -The damages listed were obtained by hitting Cable (average damage bracket) on damage setting 2. "~" will be used to indicate that a move has variable damage. The number given will be an approximate average. -Hits refers to how the move can be blocked. "H" means the move must be blocked high, "L" means the move must be blocked low, and "M" means the move can be blocked either high, or low. -OTG refers to whether or not the move can be used to hit an opponent off the ground. The value given will either be a yes or a no. "N/A" stands for "Not Aplicable", and will be used for attacks that seem impossible to even attempt on a grounded opponent. Move Damage Hits(H/L/M) OTG(Y/N) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- s.jab.................................4..............M..............N c.jab.................................4..............M..............N j.jab.................................4..............H..............N s.short...............................4..............M..............Y c.short...............................4..............L..............Y j.short...............................4..............H..............N j.df+short............................4..............H..............Y s.strong..............................7..............M..............N c.strong..............................7..............M..............Y j.strong..............................7..............H..............? s.forward.............................7..............M..............Y c.forward.............................7..............L..............Y j.forward.............................7..............H..............? s.fierce..............................13.............M..............N c.fierce..............................13.............M..............N df+fierce.............................14.............M..............N j.fierce..............................13.............H..............Y s.roundhouse (hit 1)..................9..............M..............N s.roundhouse (hit 2)..................4..............M..............N s.roundhouse (both hits)..............13.............M..............N c.roundhouse..........................13.............L..............Y j.roundhouse..........................13.............H..............Y EM Disruptor (jab)....................14.............M..............N EM Disruptor (fierce).................18.............M..............N Hyper Grav (short)(capture)...........4..............M..............N Hyper Grav (short)(release)...........8..............M..............N Hyper Grav (short)(total).............12.............M..............N Hyper Grav (roundhouse)(capture)......4..............M..............N Hyper Grav (roundhouse)(release)......8..............M..............N Hyper Grav (roundhouse)(total)........12.............M..............N Magnetic blast (jab)..................14.............M..............Y Magnetic Blast (fierce)...............14.............M..............Y Forcefield (short)....................12.............M..............Y Forcefield (roundhouse)...............15.............M..............Y Magnetic Shockwave....................~55............M..............Y Magnetic Tempest......................~72............M..............Y Fierce Throw..........................8..............(unblockable)..N/A Roundhouse Throw......................16.............(unblockable)..N/A Assist A..............................18.............M..............N Assist B (capture)....................4..............M..............N Assist B (release)....................8..............M..............N Assist B (total)......................12.............M..............N Assist G..............................15.............M..............N Snapback..............................10.............M..............N ======================================================================= 6. Thanks and Stuff ======================================================================= I think I'll thank some people... Gamefaqs and CJayC (Jeff Veasey)- for being Gamefaqs, and for hosting this. I never cease to be amazed at how much info there is on your site, and by how fast it runs. Kao Megura (Chris MacDonald) - for having a very nice MvC2 FAQ to check myself against, and for just generally being the God of FAQs Mike-Z - for inspiring many of these combos Warganic - for all the infinites, and for inspiring many of these combos. James Chen - for teaching me about the vs. game combo system. Gambit - for giving me the damage chart idea Everyone at the Kitsap Mall Silvercoin, including but not limited to... Oscar: Gone but not forgotten. Lee and Francis: For providing good competition, and a good sense of humor. Brian: Crazy Taxi got boring, did it? Well that's good. Now you can show people the power of Dhalsim and 'Gief. Richard: hmmm...I suppose now that I'm done with this, I can play suikoden. Sherwin: For playing all those weird people, *well* too! Steve: Block low damnit, you aren't playing Tekken anymore. :) T.J. : If I ever become ruler of the world, you can count on me for that island full of beautiful women and those thousands of gallons of grape soda. Patrick: For being annoying and effective. And for giving me your game that one time. Derrick: You're there when I buy eggs. It's creepy...whiner. :) Marill (mza): For being a nice guy, and for being "on the inside", and willing to share. Johnny: Once managed to take down my Magneto with Dan...ouch. Whitey: I don't know your name, you tall, goofy, comic shop wierdo. Leon: You're an asshole, and you look like the lost Beastie Boy, but you can play. Can't argue that. And of course, Ed! For being the coolest manager the world has ever known. Everyone at the University of Washington gameroom including, but not limited to: Nolan: For forcing me to play serious characters, and for capitalizing on every mistake I make. You've improved my game more than you know. Joe: Your strider scares the shit out of me...I just thought you might like to know. Jon: For kicking my ass with up-close lower-tier characters. That just about proved that I need to keep a strong AAA on my team. Fernando: ...damn you sweaty. Andy Gun: With a name like Andy Gun, you ought to be in westerns or pornos instead, you play MvC2 with Dhalsim and Tron Bone. Everybody who's names I don't know yet, I apologize: Topknot(Filo?), new-sherwin, magneto-cyclops prodigy, jolly-squint, and everybody else. The guys who come to the fri/sat night gaming sessions at Sean's: Sean, Cody, Nolan, Rat, Trinh, Thong and sometimes Quan and Jon. It's always great hanging out with you guys. Everyone who comes to Rattana's Southcenter tournaments, including, but not limited to: Rattana: You host the damn things, and set the standard by which everyone else in the northwest is judged. The other top WA players that I don't personally know (Scott, Rodolpho, Vannak, and anyone I've forgotten) The Portland guys: Jackson, Brian, Eric, Frank, Karl, and anyone I've forgotten WA SRK.com forumers: JimmyJames, Stilt Man, PsiANyd, Jin_Saotome, Super Joe, FlipBonne, SSJDudley, Dan_is_my_hero, Yangsing, Heh heh...BATMAN, SUPERMAN, and even Hustleman... All the SHGL players I met during the brief time I was down there: Duc, Alex, Viscant, Clockw0rk, Nyte...(I know I'm forgetting a hell of alot of people but I was only able to catch about half the names when Duc introduced you guys at Norms and I've since forgotten most of them.) I saw your tricks and am a better player for it Fighters.net - Budro's commin' for ya! #capcom (and all the regulars there) - for putting up with my preiodic lurking. Shoryuken.com - All kinds of spiffy. ======================================================================= 7. Update History ======================================================================= 1.0 First version ???some other versions??? 1.15 -notes on canceling specials during normal jumps -corrected typos -added sj.fierce-> sj.roundhouse combo ender -added three new infinites (thanks to Warganic) 1.3 -Slight combo extention (makes it easier too. Thanks to Lee/Mastermind) -Other minor changes to combos -Added to strategy section -Started an update history (after ~6 updates :p ) -Tried my hand at ASCII art. I hope it's not *too* bad -Added to/corrected infinites section (Once again, all the credit here goes to Warganic) -Added Johnny, and #capcom to thanks section -Spelled Marill's name correctly, added his nick -Started on damage stats for combos. Got tired. I'll finish later this week. -Misc error/ease of reading corrections 1.33 -Finished damage stats for combos -Added Brian to thanks section (now that he's playing) -Next update I plan to add some helper combos, and *perhaps* some strategies to use against various teams and fighting styles. 1.4-1.42 -Expanded the strategy section to include some minor info on good partners and teams. -Added a few more tips, and removed some I consider obsolete. -Added a new combo and a new combo segment. Segment courtesey of Caliber X. -Added info on putting helpers in combos -Added some people from the UW, Southcenter, SRK and Portland crews to the thanks section -My combo chart idea is spreading...Muahahahaha! 1.45 -I'm still not done, but I added more info on good helpers and teams for Magneto 1.5 -Realized I really needed to update this -Expanded the Best Partners and Teams sections -Added the advanced techniques section (stuff like wavedashing, guard breaking, And unrollable OTGs) -Added to/edited the various combo sections -Added a bit to the "People" strategy section -changed my state notation from "d." for ducking to the more universal "c." for crouching. (probably should have been done a while back, but I'm lazy) -Added some stuff to the thanks section 1.52 -Just a minor update this time. I learned a much more reliable way to wavedash. -Also added some info on the mechanics of Mags' throws. Look for a Throwing Tricks section sometime soon. ======================================================================= 8. Contact Information ======================================================================= If you have any information that might benefit this FAQ, whether it is about corrections, typos, or suggestions, or if you just have a question about something, don't hesitate to contact me. E-mail: firstname.lastname@example.org ICQ: 69395922 (3pwood) I also frequent the shoryuken.com forums, if you'd care to contact me there.