Resident Evil 4 Minimum Shots Fired Challenge (or, The Ultimate Knife/Grenade Run) by Matt Ehinger aka admiralhowdy at GameFAQs.com email@example.com Version 1.41 May 29, 2006 Copyright 2006 Matt Ehinger RE4 Platform: Nintendo Gamecube Game Version: US NTSC Title Menu Selection: Start Mode: Professional Costume: Normal (though shouldn't matter) Table of Contents ----------------- I. Introduction II. Essential basic strategies 1. The knife 2. Random-item exploitation 3. Milking enemies 4. Item management 5. Saving III. The run through Chapter 1-1 Chapter 1-2 Chapter 1-3 Chapter 2-1 Chapter 2-2 Chapter 2-3 Chapter 3-1 Chapter 3-2 Chapter 3-3 Chapter 3-4 Chapter 4-1 Chapter 4-2 Chapter 4-3 Chapter 4-4 Chapter 5-1 Chapter 5-2 Chapter 5-3 Chapter 5-4 Final Chapter Appendix: Un-knife-able stuff. The short list. FAQ Version Changes 1.00 April 23, 2006 1.25 May 5, 2006 1.26 May 10, 2006 1.30 May 15, 2006 1.31 May 25, 2006 1.41 May 29, 2006 Note: I am currently adding in conditional kill tallies per chapter, as well as detailed lists of permanent and random grenade locations (the few Disc 2 locations are already listed here, but the Disc 1 locations are myriad). I. Introduction For many of us, RE4 is without question the most replay-rich game we have ever had the pleasure of experiencing. While all the Resident Evils are highly re- playable, what RE4 offers is unprecedented, with a wide variety of player- defined "special" runs possible in the main game, depending entirely upon the player's own taste for fun and/or challenge. For myself, after playing the main game through a number of different handicaps starting with a merchantless run in February '05, it wasn't until a year later that I finally hit upon the notion of trying to see just how far one could get without using any sort of firearm whatsoever. In the end, while it was found that it is possible to get farther than anyone had previously assumed (many RE4 guides routinely say "you need to shoot this," or "you need this gun for that"), there are in fact only and precisely 2 places where a firearm is required, and only because grenades won't work in those 2 spots (or at least the right grenade trick has not yet been discovered). In a no-merchant run, the minimum shots necessary to be fired for completion of the fourthly-numbered Resident Evil currently stands at 4. Coincidence? Hmm... This run as herein described is essentially a knife and grenade run (excepting of course those 4 necessary firearm shots), relying heavily upon grenades to kill bosses upon whom using only a knife may be possible, but it may just not be particularly practical or fun. If you want to get completely technical, this is a knife/grenade/harpoon/BB/RL run, but minimum shots is what it is nonetheless. If use of firearms is limited to 4 shots, even many non-boss enemies can't be killed unless resorting to grenades, so if you are like me and like to KILL ALL THE BADDIES, then you may as well grenade the bosses too. In every situation presently described, there will be none of that "run past enemy x," unless it is only a temporary avoidance. All enemies available to be killed will be killed (except for 3 who are out of knife / grenade range). This probably goes against all sensibility, and is not what you may see in a typical RE4 walkthrough, but it's what I like to do. Anyone not similarly motivated may achieve much shorter game times with a basic 4-shot or a no- reloading run, probably by as much as 90%. There will be no use of merchants here, and speed is of no interest. This no- frills guide assumes a familiarity with the game on the part of the player, and as such many details have been skimmed over or omitted; while written with the veteran player in mind, it should however be easy enough to follow by those who have only completed the game once. An initial thanks goes to Vincent Merken (see his excellent FAQs here, which I strongly recommend for the RE4 fan). VMerken was following my thread on the GameFAQs.com Gamecube RE4 message board during my initial attempt at a no- firearms run (mid February-early March 2006), and he took it upon himself to scout out the territory ahead of me on PS2 to see just what could be done with grenades instead of firearms, posting links to many cool movies in the process. When you see (VM), this is further credit for specific things he posted in that thread. And a special thanks to Acidmetal, who showed us the light when it came to grenading the drawbridge chains, after I had already given up. Some of the tactics mentioned herein may be mentioned elsewhere, but I haven't used other FAQs as a resource. The following is merely what I have learned from my own experience and experimentation. Experimentation on the part of the player is always encouraged, for rooting out alternative methods. II. Essential basic strategies 1. Master the knife. Lure single enemies when possible, and deflect thrown blades when applicable. Advance to entice an enemy's melee attack, back away from melee attack, close in for the riposte. Target heads or legs for Kick or Suplex prompts, and slash 'em when they're down. This basic technique works for all reasonably humanoid enemies, with the exception of the fleet-footed and long-reaching hammer-wielder, who cannot be safely enticed. Using the knife is the fun "meat" of this run. Use the environmental gimmes (ladders, doors, windows, fences, tripwires, chasms, etc.) for an assist. 2. Random-item exploitation is a good way to obtain ammo on any type of run. For this run, exploit the random-item locations by basically only picking up grenades from them. The random spots can be identified quickly if upon a few checks the pick-up changes to or from bullets, money (value changes), or nothing. You can rest assured that grenades will appear there too, though more rarely. Be sure to carry at least 1 green herb or a health spray (eggs don't count) or you will also get green herbs showing up in your random spot.* From each possible random location, you should get not only some kind of grenade, but the right kind of grenade, which in most cases on Disc 1 will be the green hand grenade. Enough flashes and incendiaries appear in permanent locations so that using a random spot for one of these is not really necessary until you get to Disc 2. Until that time, grenades are valuable in the order: hand > incendiary > flash. You should use all 3 types, but use the minimum valued--yet most effective--grenade in each necessary situation. Hand grenades I put at the top because of their dual utility as both offensive weapons and as tools, and their general efficacy against most bosses. On Disc 2 incendiaries become more valuable due to the new enemies who are hand grenade resistant. If you have not mastered the grenade toss, you will during this run. *Note: The item contained in the box/barrel is determined at the moment of breakage, and is influenced by your current attache inventory (as an example, throw away your health spray at game start to see a green herb appear in the 1st box; the herb would not appear there otherwise). Most importantly, random-item locations may become permanently deactivated, and this deactivation appears to be directly related to the number of exposed random items, i.e., boxes broken with item not collected. If what the spot initially offers is "nothing," then moving on while that box/barrel remains broken still means that that particular spot is exposed and uncollected, and that would be a very bad thing to do. In a regular game, this happens so often that you may not realize it, and could result in scores of permanently empty boxes and barrels by the end of the game. To lessen the chance of deactivation of a particular box, only have a limited number of boxes and barrels broken and uncollected at any given time. Haphazardly breaking boxes will limit grenade availability in that you will NOT be able to get a grenade from every catalogued random spot, due to many spots becoming permanently deactivated. Even if you break and collect each spot 1 at a time, often the last 1 or 2 spots in an area still become inactive, possibly due to programming which makes the spot get stuck on "nothing" as a means of enforcing balance. The exact mechanism of deactivation remains a mystery, but you can greatly limit its occurrence by breaking/collecting each spot 1 at a time. 3. "Milking" enemies for grenades is also possible when the environmental wells run dry, or for scoring insurance grenades. There are some situations that are ideal for milking: when enemies can be lured individually, and where there is a convenient quick-save point (door to other area) for immediate retries. If you are not ultra-conservative with your grenades, you may find that you have no recourse but to load an older save, and try to get more grenades by milking enemies. When not milking enemies, go ahead and pick up the drop, whatever it is, just to clear the field (discarding any bullets). When not purposefully milking enemies, but when forced to use grenades against enemies in groups, and if it is also convenient to do a retry, then retry until you get at least one grenade back in exchange. Always be grenade- conservative. In general, save any enemies that can be killed later for later, and milk them if you need to before crossing the inevitable point-of- no-return. If you only want to complete a 4-shot game, and are not necessarily setting out to kill all the enemies, milking is seldom if ever necessary. 4. Item management: Generally, do not pick up items (aside from enemy drops, which disappear) until you are about to cross one of the many points-of-no- return, or are harvesting grenades right before a specific purpose. Due to the mysterious mechanism of random-spot deactivation, breaking any box/barrel is discouraged until you are focused on getting your grenade from that one box/barrel. You will need extensively more grenades than health items throughout the course of this run, so picking up grenades takes precedence over picking up health items; if it comes to that point, discard a health item in order to pick up a grenade (a good offense is the best defense anyway). When sweeping an area for items before crossing points-of-no-return, pick up the health items ONLY after all grenade availability is exhausted. More on random items, enemy milking, and item management will be discussed ahead, upon arrival at the 1st point-of-no-return. 5. Save often. Utilize the game's quick-save feature (by exiting/re-entering the area), and don't feel that it is a cop-out to retry and retry from continue point until you get what you want, be it an elusive random hand grenade, a no-damage encounter, a one-throw grenade hit, an exclusion of a random Plaga, a golden egg from a snake, etc. When you get what you want, save it by either method (typewriter or quick). Retries are your prime advantage over the murderous opposition. Those who really like to live on the brink may simply choose not to retry at all, and just take what comes. You won't be able to kill all the enemies, but you most certainly will once again enter the world of survival horror. Good Luck! ;) Very well then, on to it. III. The run through ============================================================================== Chapter 1-1 ============================================================================== Upon game start, keep the FAS but discard your handgun and bullets. (Note: if you want only to ring the church bell for additional kills, by all means, hang onto the gun for now. Change your personal goal from 4-shot completion to No Reloading Allowed.) Kill the not-so-honest woodcutter, and afterwards jump out the lower window. Confirm that all three Ganados are heading your way, then either jump back inside and slash them at the sill as they climb over, or exit the door of the cabin and run quickly to the typewriter shack for a save and some immediate grenade harvesting. Me, I want to kill the Pueblo's resident Drs., so I need to harvest from boxes AND milk some; Sal #1 dies most quickly with 4 hand grenades, and Sal #2 takes 6 for the quickest dispatch (total = 10), but there are only two permanent hand grenades in this area and in the Pueblo. So already I need to squeeze 8 hand grenades out of the 5 random locations and the 7 Ganados between here and there, and from the 3 accessible random spots inside the Pueblo. In the introductory area (woodcutter house to Pueblo door), it is possible that some random spots will become inactive before getting that number (8), but exhaust the boxes first before you start killing Ganados. Just avoid or put the Ganados down briefly while you check each box. In the text of this guide, random grenades will be numbered up until the point-of-no-return; permanent ones will be denoted by "P" and a number): 1) 1st box on shelf in typewriter shack 2) box on cart behind woodcutter house 3) box beside herb in pitchforked-woman shack 4,5) 2 boxes on shelf in last shack before Pueblo P1) hand grenade in signpost bird If you happen to encounter box deactivation (you'll know, if you check the box ten or so times and it stays empty), start working on the introductory Ganados. After saving/retrying from the typewriter continue point, ease forwards towards the woodcutter house until only one Ganado shouts an alarm. Notice how the others will pay no attention. Retreat to kill the 1st shouter and each successive one individually at the shack. Enter the Pueblo and come back from that direction to check the boxes and to kill Ganados closer to that end of the map. During this harvesting process, don't accept anything less than a hand grenade from a box, or any more than 1 incendiary and 1 flash from a Ganado. (Grenades seem to come quicker if you already have some type of grenade equipped, but this notion might be illusory.) Save the dog, just because you're a good person, and don't bother trying to use a grenade to kill the group of Ganados on the hillside, as they will not react to a grenade blast. When you are done in this area (or just tired of it), sneak into the Pueblo. Accessible Pueblo spots: 6,7) left box and only barrel inside house on left side 8) small box in shack up the right path P2) also flash here (Also yellow herb box behind the cow is accessible) P3) hand grenade in shotgun house accessible mid-battle Jump through the rear window of the house near the hard-of-hearing hay lady and check the random box (beside incendiary) and barrel in there, and also sneak up the right path on the opposite side of town to check the random box beside the permanent flash there (keep an eye on wheelbarrow man and water- bucket lady to keep them from spotting you). When you finally get 8 hand grenades, pick up the permanent flash, then go back to the woodcutter area and use the flash on the birds that are near where the dog was. The one on the signpost carries your 9th hand grenade. Now you're ready for both Salvadors, and they won't have time to slip away for bingo before you're done pummeling them with grenades. In order to get both, you have to kill the one up the pathway to the egg farm 1st (Ruby Sal); if you go into the shotgun house before Ruby Sal is dead, all you will get is Goldbar Sal, because Ruby Sal will sneak away to go set up the bingo tables. Enter the Pueblo, going left to run past hay lady, towards the path to the egg farm. When Sal is in your sights, lob a grenade to kill his friends and put him down. You don't have to wait for him to get up, you can put 3 more on him quickly to kill him immediately, before reinforcements arrive. Be sure it's a direct hit or it could take more than the allotted number of grenades, for both of these Sals. (You could actually use as little as one grenade for Ruby Sal here and finish him with the knife before he even cranks his saw, but you will soon have Ganados on top of you and you will get hurt). Once Ruby's dead, fake your way past any oncoming Ganados and go into the shotgun house. Run upstairs to grab your 10th grenade, then go back down and stand at the ready for Goldbar Sal to saw down the door, or just push the dresser aside and let him in (letting him in assures you won't kill too many other Ganados). When he enters, take him down. Don't take out too many Ganados with each blast, as if you kill too many the scene will end before Goldbar Sal is dead. Throw the first few quickly, then take out a bunch of Ganados while killing Goldbar with his 6th grenade. Finally knife the remaining few (if any) Ganados, using the fences and windows about town, or if you have an extra grenade, draw a bunch into a group for a big finish. Okie dokie then, on to the egg farm. Health items are infinite in the game until heading out on the lake, so reap to your heart's content. Kill individuals in this area; there are fences you can use but it should not be necessary when dealing with individuals. Save before going on to the boulder sprint, if you are trying to do this run with zero times killed. Dying doesn't change the difficulty level on Professional (VM), but you may still just want to keep any deaths "off the record." With a hand grenade, go back to the top of the boulder hill and stand beside the signpost, so that you can see the two hatchet throwers on the bridge through the trees. Aim high and a hair to the right of them. If aimed correctly, you should knock them off the bridge so that their drops will be available. Retry this until you get a grenade drop in return, thus essentially getting them to die with no expenditure. If you are out of hand grenades from the Salvador sequence (Ganados haven't dropped any), there's one up ahead in the dynamite thrower's house. My preferred method of killing dynamite Ganados is to let them light up, and run forwards as you see them getting ready to throw. Their throw will fall short and so they will kill themselves as you run on by. Lure the ones out of the house through the back window to do just this. There's a sneaky hatchet- wielder guarding the grenade inside so don't let him surprise you. Inside the destination house, be at full health (eggs anyone?) and run through each trip wire. Don't be wasting grenades here to blow them up, health is free and infinite; just be at close to full health when breaking each wire. Go meet Luis. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ End Chapter 1-1 Enemies Killed: 43 Total: 43 (May vary with how many Pueblo Ganados you can mass-kill in a final grenade blast before bingo time) ============================================================================== Chapter 1-2 ============================================================================== At the prison valley area, go out back and trigger the merchant movie, and the small panoramic movie, so that they won't bother you again, then save at the typewriter. Now retry. This is to reset the Ganado positions outside, so that you can run by all of them with no risk of interference. From the continue, run out and down the steps, then up the steps (past the white-haired one), leftwards across the bridge (past the skinny one), to the ladder and up onto the building by the exit, past the dynamiter on top who probably hasn't even lit up yet, and up the 2nd ladder to the highest ground in the area aside from the cliff. At the top is the one Ganado in this area who might hurt you a little. Slice him in the face, kick him off the platform, and now you are king of the hill. Back away from the edge when appropriate, so as not to present a target for hatchet-throwers coming off the 1st ladder. When the wave of Ganados is done, go entice a new wave to your high ground. (Note: If the AI glitches and they won't climb the 2nd ladder, throw down an incendiary and clean up with the knife; do not climb the 2nd ladder again. This happened to me once after head-smashing the topmost Ganado. Maybe he needs to lead the advance up the ladder, or maybe the ones below saw his fate and were just afraid to climb). Be wary of those that try to sneak up on you from behind the building, when you venture to the ground. Eventually the entice-able waves will be done, and you will have to go to the 1st house to get the Ganados inside (lure those inside to the back window for sill-kills); one hatchet thrower may still be in front of the house and can be killed at the door, and there are the two hatchet-throwers who guard the emblem pieces who you will have to go after. The one on the cliff is easy since he will try to climb the sandbags after flinging a few deflectable hatchets; the one on top of the house is trickier, but if you time it right, you can climb the ladder immediately after he throws a hatchet, so that you can knife him in the face and kick him before he gets ready with another hatchet. Alternatively you could come up the ladder from inside the house, deflect a hatchet, then close in. Collect the emblem-key pieces and away. Inside the next building, use the 1st door to knife each lured Ganado with some privacy, then head to the windows. Jump through and stand behind the metal barrier, far back so that Leon isn't in any real danger, and let the dynamiters kill everyone who might approach. When no one is left but the dynamiters, rush them, carefully avoiding the traps on the floor. They should throw short as always, thus killing themselves as you run past in the direction of the barrels at the back of the room. If you waited long enough and the dynamiters killed everyone possible for you, there will only be one more pitchfork Ganado back by the pool. Pick up some fish if you need some. Go up to Mendez's house. Knife the bear traps so they won't annoy you later, avoid the trip wire and go through the house. DON'T pick up the insignia key yet. Go on through (no enemies will appear) and unbar the gate to the Pueblo. This time go freestyle. It's hard to ever do the same thing twice here, but I would start by trying to kick the hatchet throwers off the roof so they can chase you around town like everyone else, if they survive the fall. Keep moving, and knife heads for group kicks. When the Pueblo is cleared again, you are free to do some more egg farming if you want/need, then go on back to Mendez' pad for a grenade-free Salvador battle. Go up to the bedroom and get the insignia key, then leave by the metal door. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ End Chapter 1-2 Enemies Killed: 62 Total: 105 (Includes kills from revisiting Pueblo, which could have been postponed to Chapter 1-3) ============================================================================== Chapter 1-3 ============================================================================== Upon leaving the bedroom, turn back around and go right back in (Hi, Ada!). Now go downstairs and save, because you don't want to have to keep skipping that movie in case you mess up with Salvador. Go out the front door, far enough for Sal to see you and crank his chainsaw. Turn around and retreat back up to the bedroom. A Ganado will shout and follow with Sal if you kick the door in a rush, but he won't follow very far. Run on down to the tripwire. If you are too fast, Sal might lose sight of you and start running in circles on the stairs; if so go back and fetch him. Lure him into the wire, knife him a few times on the ground, then play bullfighter. If you have some room you can run leftwards past him (him being on your right). Do a 180 after his shriek, close in and knife him in the back of the head one or two times until you get a Kick prompt, then by all means do so. Knife him on the ground a few times, retreat as he arises, repeat. Don't get overzealous; one or two slashes to the head tops; if you don't get the Kick prompt, retreat to play bullfighter again, or to bait with a quick run-forward/back-up motion at a safe distance, then close for a head slash or two after his pathetically miscalculated swing. Try to get in extra slashes when he isn't reacting and you could lose your head. Surprisingly soon he will be dead. Go back up the path to kill the Ganado who followed Sal, then go kill bathroom man. Out front, lure each Ganado for individual kills. Clear sailing now to the insignia key door, through to the cemetery, where there are a few knife- able Ganados and a couple of dynamite folk (If you still have your handgun, ring the bell to bring your fodder, you bloodthirsty zealot. NOW discard it). Across the bridges to the Quarry (first El Gigante area). Rush and knife the flock of birds to find the one with the flash. Go down and save in the merchant area before attempting boulder sprint #2. On to the swamp. I've never been able to use the tripwires for killing more than one Ganado at a time (and maybe a snake), but try your luck. Run around and knife heads for kicks, and eliminate who you can with the available tripwires. It can be very tempting to use a grenade or two when you seem overwhelmed, but just remember: health items are still infinitely available, so suck it up and take it on the chin until you've killed them all. Save what grenades you have for when you really need them later, and only use a grenade as a last resort. Kill swimming snakes for eggs to eat during the process if you need to. After you've killed all the swamp Ganados, it's... Grenade Harvesting Time! There are no more enemies and a slew of boxes and barrels everywhere, in a huge, huge area. After the first harvest for the two Pueblo Salvadors, you probably haven't picked up any environmental grenades, but your case may already be filling up with Ganado grenade drops. Since your case can only hold 30, there is no way you need a grenade from every existing random spot, but here are all the random and permanent grenades not already listed in Chapter 1-1, numbered from where those left off: Pueblo: 9,10) 2 barrels in metal door house 11) box in shack between haystack and farm path 12) right barrel under stairs in shotgun house P4) incendiary in right box in left house Farm: 13) barrel beside typewriter 14) barrel in cow barn 15,16) 2 barrels in the house (front one of the double barrels) 17) box by piggyback door 18) barrel in shack by piggyback door P5) permanent incendiary behind manure shack First Boulder Trail: 19) right box in tripwire shack 20) 1st barrel in dynamiter house P6) hand grenade in dynamiter house Prison Valley: 21) right barrel past merchant 22,23) 2 barrels around emblem piece building 24) barrel on top of emblem piece building 25) barrel beside cliff emblem piece 26) left barrel by last building P7) flash in locker, emblem piece building Return Route to Pueblo: 27,28) 2 barrels to left and right of path, before building 29) barrel in 1st room of building 30) barrel by windows 31,32) 2 barrels behind dynamiters 33) barrel in room past dynamiters P8) permanent flash in fish pool Mendez House: 34) barrel in shack by underground P9) incendiary in china cabinet Insignia Door: 35) box immediately inside 36) box in cave wall Cemetery: 37) box on table in Mama Rosa shack 38) box on shelf in bridge shack Quarry (El Gigante area) and Underground River: 39-41) all 3 barrels in quarry 42) barrel by typewriter P10) flash in bird Swamp: 43) barrel in 1st shack P11) hand grenade on bank P12) incendiary on bench Lakefront: 44) barrel in typewriter shack So many locations! Although hand grenades WILL appear in each spot eventually, it may take a very, very long time, possibly due to programming which is trying to compensate for the early Salvador harvest. Something you may want to try is to pick up the item, regardless of what it is (retry if it is nothing, so that the spot is not left uncollected to cause deactivation of other spots further down the road). Break each random box/barrel individually, and collect the first item presented from each of these spots, moving on after each. If you start picking up more money and bullets, the scales may be "tipped" so that more grenades start to appear again. There are certainly enough locations to give this a try. After spending a great deal of time getting two hand grenades from 9) and 10) in the Pueblo, deactivating 11) in the process, I tried this and was able to collect a total of 4 more hand grenades and 3 incendiaries (oddly, no flash) from the above random spots, without any more retries other than retries to merely confirm the randomness of the spot, or just to replace the "nothing." As my case was already about half full before this harvest just from natural Ganado grenade drops (5 hand, 5 incendiary, 3 flash), these were quite enough, along with the 9 permanent ones yet collected, to fill me up (13 + 9 + 9 = 31) Doing the math, and taking into account everything up to the 1st point-of-no- return (upcoming boat venture), it turns out that roughly a third of the random spots produced a grenade (15 grenades / 44 random spots). (Of the previously listed 8 random spots, a hand grenade had been forced from 6 of them; 2 became inactive.) Also, Ganado drops turned up grenades better than 11% of the time (16 grenades / 144 killed Ganados ; 16 being the pre-harvest inventory of 13, plus 2 milked and used on Salvadors and one that had already been used on the boulder bridge Ganados. The 144 comes from the Chapter End game total, minus the 2 Sals and Del Lago). This leads to an important idea, the usefulness of which is yet to be confirmed: if your case is almost full and you are getting ready to cross a point-of-no-return, keep some room for bullets, then try to "harvest" for bullets and money from any left-over random spots (or permanent spots, for that matter). This may keep those scales tipped so that random grenades will be more "available" in the next area coming up. Finally discard the bullets and fill up the hole with healing items or with permanent grenades before moving on. This "balance" of items collected may be why it is never very hard to milk enemies, if you keep the battlefield cleared (by picking up bullets and money) at all other times. If bullets were not discarded immediately upon collection, perhaps Ganado grenade returns would be much better than the observed 11% (bullets from boxes/barrels in the above-described harvest were only discarded to make room for the grenades when they appeared; Ganado bullets I had discarded immediately). Currently these are just theories. (*To be discussed further at the 2nd point- of-no-return, after gathering some evidence along the way*) All thinking aside, just have a full case (with your judgment of healing items) when you finally decide to go out onto the lake to cross the very 1st point-of-no return. Steer away from the floating stumps, steer away from Del Lago's surfacing maw, and aim well. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ End Chapter 1-3 Enemies Killed: 42 Total: 147 (Does not include any bell-brought cemetery Ganados.) ============================================================================== Chapter 2-1 ============================================================================== After Del Lago, you will need 3 hand grenades and a flash (one flash is in the dock house and a hand grenade is in a barrel, but don't pick them up if you already have some; you may have some space from used-up health items from the Del Lago fight, but you want to keep those empty for any enemy drops coming up). Flash your first Plaga, kick/knife the blinded Ganado, and then return towards the dock house for a save. Now go onwards to the top of that rope, and aim a hand grenade towards the high rotating box down below; aim roughly at the tops of the trees in that direction. Keep trying with however many grenades you might have, until you get the feel for it, then retry from the continue point so you can hit it in one throw. Once you hit it in one throw, do a quick-save and then go down the rope to knife the one hatchet-thrower and grenade the other two boxes. Play with it and figure out how to hit them, its not too hard, much easier than the first box; quick-save after each successful one-throw hit. Activate the lever, come back across the boxes to bring the Ganados, then retreat back to the lever. The Ganados tend to get in each other's way at the bottom of this ladder, so that they climb at a painfully slow rate. From the first few kills, you may have to say goodbye to some juicy red enemy drops as the enticing morsels fade away to oblivion, behind a bumbling gaggle of Ganados at the bottom of your ladder. Go get the church key, but don't get on the new boat, we're going Colmillo hunting. Retrace your path across the lake, get off your original boat and run towards the swamp entrance so that all 4 Colmillos get your scent. You should be able to run back to your boat with all 4 in pursuit. They will actually pass you on the way back to the boat, because they seem to like to threaten you before they jump. Once at the boat, spear away. Knife everyone in the nighttime swamp. You can quick-save after each kill, which makes it easier to avoid random Plagas (so you don't have to re-kill everyone with each try, if you want to retry in the hopes a Plaga won't appear again), or you can always try to kill with a finishing melon-smash. Don't knife the fallen Ganado on the ground too much, mainly knife to the head for a roundhouse (or later, to the legs for a suplex). Head smashes seem to limit the appearance of Plagas greatly, probably by 100%. I think the only time a Plaga sprouts from a head smash is when it wasn't really a head smash, it was just a hit-point threshold crossed that made the Plaga sprout. Have 6 hand grenades before stepping into the El Gigante area; 2 give you 1 climb, 3 climbs give you one dead El Gigante. Thanks, dog, appreciate the help, but we're fine. (Note: I have since learned from The n00b Avenger that 3 flashes can replace the 2nd, 4th, and 6th hand grenades, if thrown while the giant is staggering from a hand grenade blast.) You should have 1 incendiary for the Colmillos in front of the church. Get in range so you see the silhouette awaiting you ahead, toss it well, and the other two hidden doggies will gleefully run into the flames and kill themselves. You can use the church key to unlock it now, but don't get Ashley quite yet; it may be better to cleanse the upcoming areas of Ganados before getting her. Go to the Pueblo. Once in the Pueblo, rush and knife the shouter to the left. Kick-smash his head to forego the appearance of a Plaga. Go around the back of the Pueblo clockwise, to come up behind each Ganado as they look out onto the street. Some fire breathers and others are up the bear-trap path to the farm and can be lured individually. Rush the fire-breathers as they inhale; only slash at the inhale (total 2 slashes for 2 inhales) to negate Plagas. Knife the traps for Ashley's safety. Kill all possible at the nighttime farm at the farmhouse window, in the bright electric light (Plaga elimination? Unconfirmed). Clear the way on to the piggy-back door, luring the 2nd floor blade throwers into the window toward the indoor light. Knife all bear-traps. When the farm area is cleared, you are ready to go get Ashley. Once you open her cell door though, you have crossed point-of-no-return #2, so before you do this, be sure you have collected all possible grenades then health items from the quarry / swamp / lake / falls areas first (but not the other areas yet). You cannot go back towards the lake after getting Ashley. If at the beginning of 2-1 you woke up in the dock house with a full case, you will only need to check half of these random spots for grenades: Far Dock House and Falls: 1,2) 2 barrels by underground river 3) barrel under falls lever 4) barrel on hatchet-thrower platform P1) hand grenade in barrel on cliff top P2) flash in dock house 5) box in dock house Lake Merchant: 6-10) all 5 barrels on bottom except 1st one to the right 11) 1st barrel up top Nighttime Lakefront: 12) barrel in typewriter shack 13) box in the other shack Nighttime Swamp: 14,15) box and barrel in shacks on either end 16) barrel in middle shack Nighttime Quarry: 17,18) 2 barrels by quarry entrance and exit 19,20) both boxes in bridge shack After freeing up 4 attache slots at the falls (the Plaga and the 3 crates), I had some room to collect up to 200 Ganado bullets without discarding them, just to see what would happen in regards to the previously suggested "balance" issue. Hanging onto all Ganado bullets this stretch of the run didn't help any AT ALL with grenade drops, and when it came to harvesting the random spots, having a large supply of bullets made harvesting grenades from them well-nigh impossible. Countless attempts at 1) and 2) above returned either money or nothing, with no ammo item at all, ever. I went out, dumped the bullets, came back in, and voila, bullets. Then grenades, despite my copious supply. So apparently the ammo randomness is driven not necessarily by what you have picked up, but by what you now have, solely in terms of bullets (just like the herb randomness with FAS/herbs). If you have plenty of bullets, you will get only money or zip from the random spots. If you have zero bullets up to a certain threshold number (not ascertained, but under 4 slots worth), you will get ammo in the form of bullets AND grenades, and sometimes even money too. So there you have it. Dump your bullets immediately, it doesn't hurt. This is probably the reason most folks tend to think that grenades are a rare occurrence, because they are undoubtedly carrying too many bullets for grenades to ever appear very often. I'm still wondering though, why after the Chapter 1-1 Salvador harvest, grenades were so hard to come by at the beginning of the 2nd harvest (bullets had appeared fairly regularly with money and nothing, but precious few grenades). There might actually be a certain *number* of bullets that could be carried, that would lessen the chance of getting additional bullets while increasing the chances for grenades... (*To be discussed further at the 3rd point-of-no-return, after gathering some more evidence along the way*) Don't worry Ashley, I'm comin' for ya... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ End Chapter 2-1 Enemies Killed: 45 Total: 192 (Includes Ganados that could have been postponed to Chapter 2-2) ============================================================================== Chapter 2-2 ============================================================================== Once you both jump out the church window, go back inside the church to kill the two crossbowmen. Run immediately to the left behind the wall and tell Ashley to wait. The 1st archer will approach and when he finally sees you he will fire his two arrows into the edge of the wall (all archers will plant their two arrows in the wall when trying to shoot around a corner at their right). Kill him. The 2nd one keeps firing even though he can't see you (all archers also have annoying x-ray vision and do not use it to their advantage). Listen for his 2nd successive shot, then rush him. Outside, take Ashley all the way back as far as you can towards the bridges and leave her there, in no danger. Come back to the explosive cart; no need to waste an incendiary grenade to ignite it, most of the Ganados in this area can be lured individually. Some may get stuck behind the cart, though, and slip by all at once, which could be tricky because of the multiple fire- breathers. Just remember that healing items are not as precious as your grenades. If you are not worried about grenade supply, light the cart with an incendiary and retry if you need to, to take out everyone all at once (and a blue medallion! Yeah!). Once this area is cleared, it's on to the piggy-back door and the cabin fight. Be aggressive for maximum kills here. These poor sods don't know what they're in for. Slash open all the windows to get the party started. With good groupings you can have your 50+ Ganados killed within 3 minutes. Stall oncoming individuals with head-slash kicks, to group them up. Flash any Plagas, but use incendiaries until you're out, then hand grenades. Don't worry about being conservative (unless, of course, you aren't trying to maximize kills; in that case, just hold out the standard 5 minutes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ End Chapter 2-2 Enemies Killed: 54 Total: 246 (As in the Pueblo, kill count will depend on how many additional Ganados you can blast simultaneously with the last necessary one.) ============================================================================== Chapter 2-3 ============================================================================== Take the left path for now, but we will be going into the right as well. Hide Ashley immediately. Every Ganado on the left path can be knifed individually until you use the Camp Key. I would recommend quick-saving after each kill, to avoid any annoying random Plagas. Upon activating the sisters, run away and leave the area by way of the ladder which leads directly to the entry point. Call Ashley out for the quick-save BEFORE you pass the dumpster. Go back in and hide her again, and position yourself so that the sisters and whoever else jumps down and gets stuck behind the cart. No, don't blow them up with the cart; the cart is utilized better later. The sisters can be killed easily enough at the ladder without using the cart. Just leave them stuck there for now, and go up top to kill the individuals who are up there. Once there's no one left above, let a sister escape. If everyone escapes at the same time, that's still no problem. The sisters have an incredibly slow reaction time when ascending the ladder, so that if they shrug off all your slashes and make it to the top, there is still time to jump down (even with an accidental ladder push, with resulting needed raise up) to avoid both of them. Go up the ladder and slash the ascenders, jumping down and re-climbing as needed. Soon everyone who was stuck behind the cart will be dead and you can unlock the next door with the Camp Key. Run on down to announce your presence to everyone else, then run back to the cart-trapping position. Stand far enough away from the cart so as not to entice any blade-throwing, just beyond the missing bottom plank to your right. Count the Ganados that jump down behind the cart. You should be able to get eleven Ganados there; throw an incendiary for the big bada-boom, and for at least 2 grenade drops (try for 3 of some sort) for a massive negative-expenditure kill. If you have to retry, the continue point will be the newly unlocked door, with Ashley by your side, so you will have to hide her in the last dumpster when you again announce your presence to everyone. After using the explosive cart, there may be a very few individuals to knife above or near the exit. Now on to the Gondola Ride. VMerken posted a link to a spectacular yet baffling video of grenading everyone here, baffling in that he kills them without ever looking at them for the most part, aiming only at the sky and probably counting ticks on a stopwatch or something in order to do so (?). Inspired by his video, I attempted myself and found that it wasn't as intimidating as all that. You can also look at the targets before throwing. Ideally, you should toss a grenade so that it explodes just as the gondola ahead enters blade-throwing range. After a little practice, if you look at the target and get a real feel for the throwing, you will likely be able to get direct hits on every one for some gratifying SPLATS. You'll need 6 hand grenades for this. Run to the front left corner of the gondola, and get ready. Grenade the first 3 gondolas before knifing the 1st cable chopper. If you miss a gondola, you more than likely threw that grenade too early; if hatchets are flying by, you threw too late. Once the cable-chopper arrives, slash his legs to be rid of him. After the 1st cable chopper is gone, quickly re-assume the ready position; there's not much time in which to get the next oncoming gondola. Two more after that, with the very last gondola (single hatchet thrower) being the absolute hardest to hit. You have to ignore the 2nd cable chopper as he jumps on and starts hacking, and concentrate only on the last approaching gondola; aim slightly more to the right due to the final support column being in the way, and hopefully the approaching gondola will come close enough to the blast to knock the Ganado off. THEN knife the legs of your hitch-hiker. Keep on retrying in order to get it down to 6 grenades (retry before your gondola reaches the bottom, or you will have to load a typewriter-save game to retry, as the bottom is your new continue point). You'll have to get it down to one-throw hits for each gondola if you want to kill everyone, because if you miss one, there is no time for a second throw, and then the Ganados on that gondola are gone forever, unkilled. (If you are not looking for highest kills, you could just bat away most of the flying blades with your knife, and heal yourself a few times.) Kill the 3 Ganados in the side alcove now or later, and go meet Mendez. You will need 4 incendiaries and 3 hand grenades for a quick and painless kill here. Go back for a small harvest if you need to. At game time in the Mendez barn, do a 180, grab the herb in the left corner if you need it and ascend the ladder; go left and assume the position behind the plating (grab the grenade if you need it), and wait for Mendez to show himself through the peek-a-boo hole. Throw the incendiary through the hole, wait for him to recover before you throw the next so that all 4 count. (What happened?! I'm on the 1st floor now!) Throw a hand grenade under him immediately as he hangs before you. Place two more under him as he hangs low like that, and its over. Additionally lighting the exploding barrel with an incendiary doesn't seem to make it any quicker. You can be gone in 60 seconds with no damage. Grab his eye and anything of possible use in the barn (all herbs and the two grenades); because once you jump out, you can't come back in. Don't go into the eye door yet, as that's point-of-no-return #3. Go harvesting, and don't forget El Gigante on the right path. 6 grenades again for him; he guards one random- item box for a grenade pick-up, and a permanent incendiary as long as you don't let him demolish the shacks. Grenade locations before crossing the 3rd point-of-no-return: Church: 1) barrel on right in outer room P1) flash in barrel on 1st floor P2) incendiary in left barrel, 2nd floor 2) barrel to right of incendiary 3-5) 3 of the barrels in Ashley's cell Cemetery: 6) box on shelf in shack Insignia door: 7,8) box and barrel close to typewriter Nighttime Pueblo: 9,10) metal door house, outer room barrel, inner room box 11) former yellow herb box 12) right box in shack near blocked Mendez house road 13,14) left box and only barrel in the other single-story house 15) box near back haystack 16) box in back shack towards farm road 17) left barrel under stairs in former shotgun house Nighttime Farm: 18) barrel in cow barn 19-21) box and 2 barrels (nearer of the pair) in house 22) box near piggyback door 23) barrel in shack near piggyback door Cabin: P3-P5) flash, incendiary, and hand grenade inside Bella sister path: 24) barrel in central pit 25) near barrel in railroad track pit 26) barrel in room past Camp Key door P6) flash in barrel down boarded-up window path P7) hand grenade in cellar 27,28) left and far right barrel coming from gondolas El Gigante path: 29) box on ground P8) incendiary in 1st shack Gondola areas: P9) flash in locker at bottom 29) barrel in dynamiter alcove Mendez Barn (too late for these if you didn't grab them before): P10,P11) incendiary and hand grenade Total of 40. Again, there should be enough to pack a case, even if your previously full case was half emptied in the cabin fight. Church cart-1, Cabin-(15), Bella path-1, gondolas-6, Mendez-7, that's 30. Small harvest for Gigante-6 leaves 34 of the above 40. And that's assuming there were an unlikely zero Ganado grenade drops. At the start of this harvest, grenades started out scarce for me again, so I started picking up bullets in the hopes of getting to the bottom of that "bullet number theory" of grenade likelihood previously proposed. At 50 bullets, grenades still seemed pretty scarce. At 60, they suddenly seemed to appear quite frequently, often being the first item presented by a box/barrel. At 70 they didn't seem to appear much anymore, though that admittedly could have been because of the ones that had recently been collected. Call me superstitious, but I started carrying 60 bullets as a good luck charm, and the harvest went pretty swiftly. Take that for what it's worth. On the other side of the eye-door, tell Ashley to wait. Run forwards, chuck a flash at the oncoming truck and retreat. After the crash, collect Ashley and the pickups, run on to the bridge, but not too far, and tell Ashley to wait. Go back to meet the oncoming Ganados with incendiaries, or knife them all if you are feeling frisky. When everyone's dead, check the barrels there and head to the castle. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ End Chapter 2-3 Enemies Killed: 61 Total: 307 ============================================================================== Chapter 3-1 ============================================================================== Inside the 2nd castle area, go up the stairs and around until the catapult movie, and leave Ashley right there as you go knife the 2 pacing monks. Entice the catapults to launch, then call her to you during the safety window. Go up the next stairs and leave her on the upper set, then go back to either knife the two sneaky-petes or entice the catapults to kill them. Go up and kill the scythe-wielder at the window. Then put an incendiary on each drum that you can see near each catapult. The catapult right above the stairs seems to have an invulnerable monk, so forget about him. There is one catapult at which you can't safely see a drum, so a hand grenade works there. Raise the cannon and blow the door. In the sword room, take Ashley to a far corner and leave her, then go to the stairs to knife/suplex all monks who come, on the stairs. Call Ashley up top, back to the item shelf, then position yourself behind the rail above the stairs. Enemies will come in twos, and pause at the top of the stairs. Use incendiaries. Throw one, wait until the last second as the 1st two enemies arise, then hit them again in conjunction with two new enemies. Repeat until there are only two softened enemies to finish with the knife (retry as many times as you like for a better score of replacement grenades). Go back down, carefully run past the red baldy to entice a swing, then knife him. Do the sword switcheroo, go on to trigger the Luis movie, then save. Leave Ash by the entry point in the Luis-movie area, then use the 1st available door to your advantage to dispose of all the monks/zealots here. Once the room beyond the door is clear, go in and incendiary the archer, then go down the steps to meet the shield-bearers. Two side-by-side are no harder than one, so entice a simultaneous attack, close in to slash downwards for a Kick prompt, and voila, no more shields. Use the doors again if you want. Keep Ashley where she is, by the entry point, in no danger. Go down and get the key. Don't be tempted by the explosive barrel, you won't need to expend a grenade or health item in order to use it; once you get the key, run down the nearest stairs, entice the two flail-wielders into a simultaneous attack, run past and use all three doors until everyone's gone. Special note: do not exit the area during the after-key encounter; if you leave the area, these guys are gone for good, unkilled. If a Plaga pops out here, use a flash to destroy it. Go on and meet short-stuff. Save at the new typewriter, then go back to kill the new monks, so that you won't forget about them later and miss out. These 5 are ripe for milking. Ideally you haven't picked up any items in the castle, and your case should have plenty of space now after having thrown ~8 grenades since getting here. Everyone can be lured individually, and there is an on-site quick-save. Tell Ashley to wait, and the 1st enemy will hear and come to you; leave her there again and go get the 2nd one; for the next 3, watch through the crack to the right of the door into the table-room area, and wait until they all 3 go in the table room, then show yourself at the window there to lure them, or just use the two doors here if more than 1 see you. There is no reason not to get 5 insurance grenades here, with the water room coming up soon. Now you're ready to go back past the new typewriter and knife the first Garrador. Unfortunately grenades have no effect on Garradors other than to briefly stun, which would just be a waste. Leave Ashley upstairs before you go down, and after awakening the Garrador, be sure to try and leave so that the door closes. Now you can use your voice to talk to Ashley (and she can't come down), thus enticing your adversary. This makes it much easier to lure him into the wall-stabs (telegraphed by the urh! grunt with the punch stance, not the oorarh! with sudden run). Slash his back parasite when he's stuck in the wall, and as with Dr. Salvador, make your life easy and don't get overzealous. Eventually (30ish back-slashes?) he will go down. Run to the typewriter to save afterwards. Retry from continue and leave Ashley by the typewriter, and go in to deal with the advancing monks. Position yourself and time it so that you can slash the red hanging lamp to soften the flail- wielder, and finish him before the unarmed one arrives, who you can kill with the elbow back-smash. (You can knife his Plaga between the telegraphed attacks, or retry to avoid it). Save yet again and retry, so that you can get the next 4 caught in a dynamite blast. Open the door and just stand there, until the first one comes running to you instead of away, then race him into the next room for the blast. This multiple kill is a good place to retry for a grenade drop. And now, the infamous water room. We are going to clear this room little by little, saving often until it's empty. Equip a hand grenade before entering; once in, aim high and up the center. Your goal is to NOT kill everyone with it so that the reinforcements do NOT arrive immediately. As always, multiple kills are always good places to retry for grenade drops. Take Ashley with you to run and collect the drops, then out. Now, your primary goal should be to go in with the crowd thinned to take out those accursed archers. Incendiary them one by one, then the reinforcements will probably arrive. When retuning from the save, step towards the chair to your right, arm a hand grenade and spin so that Ashley stays behind you, aiming at the middle carpet where the left and middle paths meet. If you are standing correctly (not quite directly in front of the chair), no one will come up behind you, and you can blast all advancing up the middle and from the left, provided they cooperate and form a good grouping. Then after dealing with the red flailer, all the unarmed enemies left in here can be killed quickly with the elbow. Knife any single shield-bearers. Stand on the plates to raise the first crank, but make Leon back up onto his plate, facing the door so that all you have to do is run. Take the near right stairs then straight up the middle and out, with no interference. Come back in and clear the room same as before. Have Ashley work the crank, waiting behind her at the ready with a hand grenade. When the stairs drop, throw it (be hammering A during the movie) and immediately ready the knife for deflection even before it blows. Collect any drops and bug out; knife the rest of the scythes when you come back. Now comes the... er, fun. For the love of all that's holy, do a typewriter save if you haven't been doing so. It doesn't matter which side you choose, Ashley's monks will be mirror-imaged. Once she's up, back up and incendiary (VM) or hand grenade the one closest to her, then go and throw a hand grenade at the monks coming out of the door on the opposite side. Knife/kick your first opponent to stall him momentarily for others to arrive for a bigger grouping; grenade and knife them as you best see fit. Use hand grenades if possible; keep a good supply of incendiaries for the upcoming maze Colmillos, which are easy to milk for replacement hand grenades. Throw flashes up to Ashley whenever she screams. If flashes run out you can use well-placed hand grenades to dust even an abductor without hurting her. Grenade any below who might interfere with the Catch, then retreat to the exit to leave Ashley in safety, and come back to finish the pursuers. If you leave the room before all pursuers are dead, they will disappear forever, unkilled. If Ashley is hurt, don't bother wasting something to heal her, she will recover. Finally, go up the hallway beyond the water room. Bye-bye, Ashley. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ End Chapter 3-1 Enemies Killed: 97 Total: 404 ============================================================================== Chapter 3-2 ============================================================================== Now that that's over, next fun thing on the agenda is killing a bunch of Novistadors, with your foot. (Pick up the flash at the sewer entrance if you don't have one). Two hand grenades in quickest succession kill the bugs instantly, for however many you can get in a group, but it is much more fun to try to best them mano y mano. 12 kicks do them in, less if you get to use the knife some. The first bug is the easiest to get this to work on, because thanks to the long hallway, you can keep an eye on him; just approach, back away, use the Kick prompt. Back away from all attacks; if he jumps to the wall or ceiling, run away. If he has you close to one end of the hallway, run past him after a kick or one of his attacks, to get more space. Sometimes he seems to forget what he is doing and will just crouch there, invisible. These times you can knife him four times and he'll scurry away. All the next ones can be killed this same way, but quick-save after each so that it will be easier to hang onto your healing items. The 2 in the pool can be separated; approach the ladder to lure the 1st one to the near corner by the rail up top. Whenever a bug attacks too far out of its prescribed "territory," this is when it becomes absent-minded and just sits there. Slash 4 times to get it to retreat, then lure again. The second one in the pool does not come out of the pool. After killing the 1st one, you will have to jump down on top of the second one at the bottom of the ladder. He swings and misses due to the close proximity. Run deep into the pool, 180, wait for the Kick, retreat to the starting position, repeat. If at any time he jumps to a wall, exit the pool quickly and run way beyond the starting position; if he's on the wall, he can come out of the pool briefly and chase you a bit. For the ones in the central cell area, it is best for now to lure them to the pool and do the same thing. Once you announce your presence, they will come to the pool the moment you get too close to the ladder leading out of the pool. Hug the right wall (facing the cell areas) in order to decrease the chances of them jumping to the left wall. After these, enter the last cell on the far side (where incendiary is) to lure the one out of the back hallway. Try for a Kick as he comes out of the connecting hall; if you can get him to attack (spit or uppercut) near the cells most distant to him, you can knife him a few times. Sometimes this bug may get stuck at his starting position, behind the bars back there. If so, you will have to go Kick him where he is stuck. The two that appear individually from the ceiling outside the valve room can also be kicked/knifed to death, as long as there isn't anyone else around to interfere. After working the valve, run out past the 1st bug, through all the broken cells to just outside them, but no further. Come back in and lure it for a Kick, then back away and out, avoiding it's next attack (don't get hung up on the bars; back up to the right through the opening before the bars). If you dodge this second attack you can knife the critter. Repeat this for the 2nd bug here. The next one busts out of a cell as you go into the central area. You can either lead him back to the 1st pool, or, now that the other enemies in this cell area are gone, you can open up the battlefield. If you choose not to lead him to the 1st pool, whenever he jumps to the ceiling you can run into the hallway leading to the valve room. He will jump back to the floor and you can Kick him here. Run past him and repeat. This bug has the biggest "territory" of all and can chase you all the way to the valve room, and even out of the pool on the opposite side (he can also get stuck where the earlier bug can get stuck). There will be very little knifing of him. After him, another appears from the ceiling in the central area; deal with him the same way. Another bug appeared near the sewer entrance when you lowered the water. He can be lured out of the crate passage for easy Kick prompts, and for knifing too. That's all of them. Go on through the pendulum blades, and use a flash grenade to stun the ceremony below. Rush to the door to trap them, then kill all but 2 of them at the ladder. Beware the stubborn black-robe, who, besides being a total ass, is one of those who does not take kindly to the elbow trick. Now you'll come to the gun turret room, where you might think you can milk the 2 easy regenerating flail-wielders for grenades, but unless you are in dire need, I wouldn't recommend it because it is hard work with little payoff and just not an ideal milking situation. Simply blow on through with a minimum of resources; use the doors, and if you can spare an incendiary, use it on the exploding barrel above to take out the archers and to soften one of the helmeted flail-wielders. Go up and around, jump down and run in a large clockwise circle to avoid the healthy flail-wielder, rush the softened one to kill in one slash, then deal with the healthy one. Chase the key-bearer but don't follow into the upper room, just push the door there open so the new shield-bearer sees you, then step back and pound him with the door until he is dead. Jump down and enter the first-floor barrel room, and chase Red up the stairs to give him what for with the knife. Take the gallery key. Be sure you take 3 hand grenades into the gallery. Hang an immediate right for the safety of the door there, and wait by the door until it opens, then throw down the 1st hand grenade to immediately kill the 4 scythes and possibly the bald unarmed monk (throw behind them so it blows them in and you can pick up the drops; picking up their drops too far outside the door will trigger the first RL monks to fire, at which point they are gone for good). If you didn't get the bald monk in your first grenade blast, wait for him at the door so you can knife him. Go up the stairs, grab the yellow herb, and run straight to the painting. Skip the movie, take a step or two back, and lob a grenade high. If you try to "shoot for 2", it will likely bounce back off of an invisible wall where the painting was; however, you can always reach the monks with an actual blast, be it a blast from their rockets, your grenade, or their rockets colliding with your grenade. Cringing from your own close-proximity grenade blast saves you from any damage in the event the rockets launch. You should hear them groan, and when the smoke clears you should see empty blackness behind the painting; if you see a monk standing there before the painting goes back down, too bad; try again. It is also possible to get these 2 RL monks to kill themselves by running forwards to meet the rockets head-on, but results vary. Chase down the slippery archers and knife them, flashing any Plagas that appear. Be wary that there is one more unarmed monk in here. Once everyone is dead, activate the button by the white door, and back away from the painting. This time when it opens, you can shoot for 2 and kill them before they fire; however I have also had a grenade bounce back inexplicably as well; could be that the invisible wall occupies only the top half of the painting space. Same deal as before, though; if they are still standing, too bad, try again. Break the vase to hit the switch, then wait until you see a scythe poking through the door before you approach it. Quickly push it open so the other RL monks see you and fire, hopefully taking out the scythes. Clean up with the knife. Next part is the hedge maze. You should have ~8 incendiaries. Fire up the first single Colmillo, but the rest can be hit in groups of 2 to 4 if you do some running to lure individuals together. One lone one in a cage can be knifed to death. Get a replacement grenade (whichever kind you need) from each group killed. Be sure to pick up the shotgun shells in order to kill an additional 2 Colmillos. Run all around until you are sure you got them all. Go inside. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ End Chapter 3-2 Enemies Killed: 67 Total: 471 ============================================================================== Chapter 3-3 ============================================================================== Break the lock in the item room to open that route, then typewriter-save before trying a hand grenade on the wine bottle painting. When you hit it, that will be a new continue point, so be sure you typewriter-save immediately before you try; you want to do it in one throw. Have another hand grenade before you go into the cage-room. When the cage drops on you, throw the hand grenade down at the facing door to simultaneously break the lock, kill several enemies, and stun the Garrador for you to kick your way out unscathed. Gather the drops and leave towards the dining hall for safety, then go back into the cage room as needed to kill them one by one. Wait for them to stop dropping from the ceiling before tackling the Garrador. This room was custom made for knifing him; lure him into wall stabs in any corner around the cage. In the free rocket launcher room, use the ladder for the initial kills, then work the lever to raise the floor; use the ladder again on the two sneaky- petes (do not step onto the raised walkway as the shields will come). Leave for a quick save. Back inside, race down the raised strip of floor past the oncoming shields (they advance at a random rate so you may have to entice the first one in order to run by to the left); entice the original flailer to run by him down the stairs. Kill the original flalier on the stairs there (the shield bearers apparently have important business and keep on truckin'), then go back for the shields. Use the hanging lamp on one of them, and the door if needed for the rest. Go into the RL room to kill individuals. Now it's harvesting time, because you will be using several grenades to free and save Ashley. Do your harvesting first and foremost from all the areas between the water room and the gallery, as these areas will be inaccessible after freeing her. Also be sure to kill any enemies you may have held off on (maze Colmillos, Garrador, sewer bugs) because these will all be gone or unavailable when you get Ashley back. If you have already picked up grenades from these areas listed here and think you need more, go ahead and get the grenades from the cage room and nearby item room (next list following), before new enemies appear in them. Grenade locations from areas soon to be barred (point-of-no-return #4, minor): Water room: 1) far left vase, mid-room P1) incendiary in far right vase, mid-room 2) left vase coming from floor switch room P2) hand grenade in right vase coming from floor switch room 3) vase in left archer perch (opposite FAS) Merchant/ceremony room: P3) hand grenade in chest 4) left barrel, 2nd floor Sewer/dungeon: P4) flash in right barrel at entrance 5) box in side passage P5) incendiary in cell 6) right barrel towards pendulums 7) left barrel, 2nd floor towards merchant Gallery areas: 8) large vase, right side gun turret 9) right barrel in stair room 10) vase at stair near white door (by RL monk painting) 11) vase on low wall, same room, bottom floor ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ End Chapter 3-3 Enemies Killed: 23 Total: 494 ============================================================================== Chapter 3-4 ============================================================================== There are any number of ways to throw a hand grenade to release her, but this one is probably easiest as it involves no aiming up or down, or even sideways. Go down the short stairs towards that center platform, then go back up so that you are just on the steps, with your heels touching a thin dark line just forwards of the ledge behind you (use the C stick to observe; going down the stairs resituates the camera so you can see Leon's feet). Once you are standing correctly, you can then release the C stick and just chuck a grenade directly forwards, without aiming up or down, to release her. You may have to try a few times to get the stance down, taking note of the position of Leon's heels. Finally try for a one-throw release. Afterwards throw flashes, incendiaries, and hand grenades as you see fit until the excitement is over. 7 hand grenades are plenty for the whole deal; remember that you can dust abductors without hurting her; you can't do that with incendiaries. As Ashley, rack up a whopping 2 kills by throwing lamps. Sometimes Ashley loses her mind and throws where you don't intend, and the 1st monk can run too much to hit easily. Bait him to slow him down for a close proximity hit. If you don't pair up the monks, all 6 lamps are needed, so if you miss you may have to end up using the swinging door to the dais room to try a Suplex on the first monk, or just keep retrying the lamps; more lamps will appear if you leave and come back. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ End Chapter 3-4 Enemies Killed: 13 Total: 507 (Sometimes fewer monks come during the Ashley rescue sequence) ============================================================================== Chapter 4-1 ============================================================================== With Ashley back by your side, retrace your steps back through the cage-room, avoiding the new scythes; bear left to the item room (entice the scythe guard down that way to pass him). You can rush through the item room past the 2 bugs to the typewriter however often you want. Go use Ashley to unlock the free Broken Butterfly, but don't pick it up yet, then come back through past the bugs again. Kill the scythe-wielder by the bug room, to create a safe passage. Save the rest for potential milking; right now we will ditch Ashley again. Go back by Luis' dead body again, then go to the lava room with the dragon riders. You will need 3 flashes, and there are several permanent ones around (one in cage room, one by free RL, one across from Luis' corpse). Put a flash on top of each dragon to drop it in the lava. You could hold off killing the 2nd one, as he can help you soften some enemies with his flames. Definitely hold off killing the 3rd one, but activate it so that enemies start coming. Once the 3rd dragon is dropped, the enemies won't come, so wait until you killed all who come before dropping the 3rd (and maybe 2nd) dragon. Use the rotating circular fence to your advantage in here. Knife/suplex/kick them all. Get the puzzle piece and ride the rail car to go put the puzzle together. Ride the next rail car to the grail area. The descending ceiling towards the Queen's grail can be knifed (VM), or a single grenade can work but you should be holding onto those for now. Use a well-thrown flash (VM) on the drill- machine monks and get the Queen's grail, and for the King's grail, leave Ashley behind momentarily and use 3 hand grenades and 1 flash on each set of Armaduras (do a small harvest from the nearest areas to get grenades if you need them). With both grails in hand, lure each individual away from the grail door for knife kills. Now you can ditch Ashley again. You will now need 4 hand grenades to keep moving, but 3 more to take out the hive and clinging bugs. This may sound like a lot of hand grenades to keep using, but it is not difficult to dredge up this many. You can get a replacement grenade from a bug off the hive, when you decide to bring it down. As soon as Ashley is gone, do a 180 to leave through the main doors, then hop out the windows into safety and kick and knife all the bugs over the sill; don't get too close and they won't touch you (those on the ground can connect with an uppercut). Kill the hive and clinging bugs by throwing 3 hand grenades at it through the high window (VM). After pulling the lever, 1 hand grenade is needed to break the drawbridge chains (thanks again to Acidmetal). There is apparently only 1 spot to stand in order to make this throw successful. Face the pillar next to the lever (towards the bridge) and walk into the pillar, facing at a slight angle towards the lever until you hit an invisible wall. Stop and pull out a hand grenade and aim high, then spin to direct it towards the top of the next pillar down. With your grenade, try to skim the flat part at the very top of the next column down, right along where a thick dark curve is that traces the circumference of the room (this is the shadow underneath a ledge). When the grenade touches this shadow, that is when the chains will break. This trajectory (hitting the ledge shadow) was also found and videoed by VMerken after Acidmetal posted that the chains could be hit by standing close to the lever. It is unusually difficult to intentionally aim the throw right, since being in such close proximity to the wall makes the camera perch right on Leon's shoulder, so that you can't use Leon himself as any sort of reference. Here you will have to use external visual clues. So when you try this, be aware of visual clues visible on the screen, right before each throw. When the grenade touches the curving shadow, memorize the appearance of your visual clue, whatever it is, so that you can easily replicate the throw. I look for a gray, roughly V-shaped feature in the upper left hand corner of my screen, and I use its shape/position as a reference to how accurate my throw will be. As always, retry for a one-throw hit. The 3 catapult attendants defending the clock tower bridge are the only "available to be killed" enemies consciously skipped in this guide. As I am going for lowest shots fired with this run (4) I will not tell you to attempt to hit each with a single magnum round. I do know that in a handgun-only game, the first two can be hit by peppering the area with 9mm bullets. Though you cannot see your laser sight that far away, you can see the dust from where your bullets hit the castle wall. However, the farthest attendant cannot be hit with a handgun bullet as the bullets seem to disappear before they hit him; if you back up far enough, you can see how the bullets vanish at a certain distance, because the dust stops being made against the castle wall. At the clock tower, knife everyone on the way to the lever on the top floor, and use 3 hand grenades inside to destroy the blocks jamming the gears. For the block that seems too close to get a hit, try throwing the grenade in the opposite direction, bouncing it off the wall directly in front of you. Now before you pull the lever you need to gather the free RL, any grenades you can carry, and the free Broken Butterfly. Get the BB at the last possible opportunity, as when it is in your possession, magnum rounds will begin appearing in the random spots and as enemy drops, thus cutting your chances for grenades (possibly). Throw away all but a minimum of health items if you need to, for more grenades. Harvest all areas, and if needed, milk the scythes in the cage room. The 2 bugs remaining near that area are not worth milking, but both can be kicked to death. The one nearest the typewriter door can be lured to the door and kicked (back well away from anything other than an immediate kick prompt when it busts the door open), and the one further inside can be kicked/knifed after the other one is gone (hint: walk towards it, don't run, to prevent it from hopping repeatedly to the ceiling). After all enemies are killed, all random spots harvested (all except the ones in and immediately outside the clock tower; you can get those later), and all possible permanent grenades and health items are picked up, you will likely have to choose and discard some things to get the RL and BB to fit, even after disposing of all enemies including the hive. Grenade locations before crossing point-of-no-return #5: Castle entrance: 1) barrel beside stairs 1st catapult area: 2) right barrel, bottom of cannon tower P1) incendiary in left barrel, bottom of cannon tower Sword room: 3) shelf on 2nd floor 1st Garrador area: 4) left vase near typewriter P2) incendiary in left barrel outside Garrador room 5) vase at window into Garrador room P3) hand grenade in vase upstairs (near tracks to grail area) Outer fountain area: 6) 2nd barrel past fountain P4) incendiary in 4th barrel past fountain Item (bug) room: 7) box on shelf near snake vase 8) vase at far end of room Moonstone (Ada movie) room: P5) incendiary, vase immediately inside 9) vase behind merchant Dining hall: P6) flash in cage room 10) vase on table next to item (bug) room RL room: 11) vase under bridge P7,P8) incendiary and flash with RL Ashley rescue room: 12) vase left of Saddler painting P9) flash, left one of the double vases 13) left vase towards dragon room Grail areas: 14) vase near merchant P10) flash in hall chair 15) overturned barrel in Queen's Grail room 16) far left vase, hallway before hive Pull the lever to move the bridge. Rush each archer and leave quickly by the upper door each time for a quick-save. Jump down the last ladder to activate the new group, wait until the last second so the enemy above jumps down, then re-climb and let dynamite man do the dirty work. Kill him when you don't need him anymore, then rush the last archer near the exit. Outside, the 3 oncoming shields are best addressed with a softening incendiary with knife finish. Get a replacement grenade from them, then go forwards to call out a small army of enemies. 180 and fake past the ones behind you so that you are not surrounded, and use incendiaries and possibly a hand grenade at your discretion, on large groupings until all that remains is RL man, who stolidly awaits his sound suplexing. If everyone here is not killed in one go, some may disappear, so don't retreat. In the double Garrador room, there is a certain small area you can walk in without getting trapped; use this small space to walk back and forth to bait the two monks individually. Quick-save after killing each. Now you are ready to deal with the Garradors. These can be lured individually as well, but you of course lose your quick-save when the bars go down. Walk up on one side of the steps, easing forwards, until only one reacts, and back away downstairs again. Lure him into wall stabs as far as possible from the steps, so as not to alert the other, and keep any running to a minimum. When the first one's gone, lure the other, keeping him downstairs. Finally you will get your quick-save back. You can then use the knife more easily to deal with the 3 sneaky-petes who arrive when you top the first steps, as well as the flailer further in. Before going into the next room, gather all possible hand grenades and the herb from the tower, and milk those last 3 enemies that appeared outside the clock tower if you need to. You should have an easy case load full of hand grenades by the time you get to Salazar's Right Hand, who you can kill with 10. Grenade locations before crossing point-of-no-return #6 (minor): Clock Tower: 1) right barrel outside 2) box on 3rd floor 3) box near 1st floor door P1) hand grenade in left box, bottom of stairs Double Garrador room: 4) left vase P2) incendiary in right vase Spike Pit: P3) incendiary by typewriter After falling down the pit, gather the yellow herb and incendiary if you can hold them, then go up the ladder towards yet another point-of-no-return. When Verdugo shows himself in the switch room, run past him and use the liquid nitrogen tank immediately, then kick him and quickly get some distance to lob 2-3 hand grenades on him BEFORE he busts out of the ice. Run around the square track in here (counter-clockwise is best so you won't accidentally get stuck in the dead-end where the switch is) and dodge repeatedly until the door opens. Run/dodge your way to the next tank, tip it, kick, 2-3 grenades, run and dodge you way to the next tank in the room to the right up ahead. Wait for him, tip it, kick, 2-3 grenades, run/dodge your way to the next tank in the elevator room, wait for him, tip it, now just 1-3 grenades depending on what number you already effectively threw, and he's dead with a total of 10 hand grenades. Incendiaries hurt him too (minor damage) if you don't happen to have that many hand grenades, but use these only when he's not frozen; if he's frozen they'll just thaw him out quicker. Use incendiaries only after hand grenades are exhausted. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ End Chapter 4-1 Enemies Killed: 88 Total: 595 (includes one face-hugger spawned during bridge battle) ============================================================================== Chapter 4-2 ============================================================================== The next part is the mining area, which can be aggravating because of the hatchet throwers. They won't be having none of that-there ladder domination 'round these parts. These goons you'll have to lure individually or in twos back up the entry passageway out of hatchet range; deflect hatchets here and close in. Soon the only Ganado left will be the one standing on the platform, who you can rush to keep slashing his legs. Further in, more will appear but they can be dealt with one-on-one. When you flip the switches to bring Dr. Salvador and more Ganados, go back up the steps and wait for them to come, standing back from the ledge out of hatchet range, then jump off the ledge and run over to the ladder. Watch out for hatchets, and do the ladder domination thing (approach ladder only as you see the first head). Whenever Sal makes it all the way to the top, jump down and lead them all in a big circle if necessary and do the same thing, until you are free to blow the boulder and use the ladder on the remaining two. In the double El Gigante room, go for the ladder. When someone shakes the platform, slide down the wire and use the lever to dump the first giant into the lava. Run back to the ladder, keeping your distance from the open pool, and go up again. When you top the ladder, do a 180 and wait for him to begin the shake (you'll here a deep "moo," and then his shoulders move). As soon as his shoulders move, jump down and slash with the knife 5-6 times as you turn back towards the ladder, then climb. Repeat until he staggers so that you can climb his back. Repeat all this until he's dead. After Verdugo your case has been almost empty, so do a harvest before going through the Novistador cavern. You'll likely need a health item or two to get through this, but try to hang onto any grenades you have. Run in and straight to the top cave where the 2nd light switch is, by way of the road that doubles back along the wall to the right. Be ready for the Kick prompt. Try to hug a wall entering the cave and henceforth to avoid the bugs; hit the switch and grab the herb, and go back out to quick-save if you are lucky enough to get snagged only once or less. When you come back in you only have one switch to hit, and it's a shorter route to the exit. Do the same thing and run to the exit, but don't go further than a few feet in. All the enemies will convene outside the opened gate, where you can kick the jumpers and knife the flyers. Be careful of the ones that fly because they can still jump your face sometimes, and sometimes jumpers may jump past you and wind up behind you (not good). Due to so many enemies being there at one time, it is just dangerous probably due to forced clipping issues. If you get hurt too much, retry from continue point, which is right there and is very convenient because it resets enemy positions so that you can lure smaller groups to this magic spot. (Note: if you leave for a save before all enemies are killed, some may disappear). Eventually you will have to lure some onto the center bridge and kick them as you back away, because these won't go all the way to the gate. When all the bugs are killed, do a harvest and go on past another point-of-no-return. point of no return #7 (major) (Grenade locations to come) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ End Chapter 4-2 Enemies Killed: Total: ============================================================================== Chapter 4-3 ============================================================================== If your case is full, run past all the Ganados in the ruins and quickly work the crank to go down the hole. You don't want to kill them now if you can't pick up their drops. However, you do have to kill the ones below for your own safety. Kill all individually and knife all the traps. Then go up the ladder; immediately do a 180 and jump out (you are forced to push the ladder down first). Going in the building made new Ganados appear, so run away from them and out for a quick save. Alternatively you can go a certain distance in by the lower door to make them appear, but they are still easier avoided by jumping out the window over the top of them. When you come back in from the save, only two will be in pursuit, a hatchet thrower and a fire breather. After dealing with this aggravating pair, lure and knife the rest individually. Then raise the ladder, go up again, and this time lure the upper Sal downstairs past the lower one. Bring them both outside to follow you up the ladder again. Slice them a couple of times before they reach the top, then push the ladder down when they come too close. If one makes it up top, lead them both around again. Repeat until both are dead. Grab the key to bring even more Ganados, and kill all these from the top of the ladder. Use the key, but before moving on, try to get a full case if you don't have one, because in the mine carts ahead you will be using an assortment of grenades. You will need 2 hand grenades as switch-trips, but for offense/defense I advise equal parts incendiaries and hand grenades, with at least 2 flashes for the Plagas that may occur; also carry at least 4 full heals. After stocking up, go on to the 2nd descending ceiling in the game, which this time cannot be completely knifed. Here is the only reason you picked up the Broken Butterfly earlier. Shoot out 2 of the lights and then knife the 1st 2 Plagas, then shoot out a third light, and flash the next 2 Plagas when they appear (there is no time to knife them, and they can interfere with knifing the 4th light). Gather grenade drops (discard BB if necessary) and stand underneath the 4th light, aim up and keep swinging the knife. If you are standing correctly you will take it out right as the ceiling drops for a hair-breadth escape. Between this room and the mine carts there are 2 grenades possible and an herb. Discard the Broken Butterfly and get them; this is the only opportunity. Trip the first switch with a hand grenade, then move up to the front cart and face backwards. Knife/kick anyone who drops/comes close, until you become overwhelmed; then use an incendiary to burn everyone in all 3 carts while in movement. Throw it directly at your feet; the wind is your friend. Be quick with the R+L prompts, and when the carts slow down, head towards the back cart (Sal will be jumping in the front). You COULD throw a hand grenade at the switch now (aiming relatively high from the back cart) to get the carts moving quickly again, but don't. There are some stragglers that won't show up for a minute or two, so just stay put and draw from your full stock to thin down the opposition (hand grenades recommended, aimed at Sal whenever he stands up, but save one hand grenade for the switch). Use the knife again when the crowd is thin enough. After they're all killed here, all you have to do now is trip the switch and stay alive, because anyone left in the cart when it falls into the chasm counts as a kill. Make the rest of your supplies count, and watch out for that last R+L prompt... it can be a killer if you aren't facing forwards to see it coming. After that adventure, odds are your case is empty or close to it, save for the RL. Restock your grenades by milking. Use the emblem key to the Mecha- Salazar statue building. Skip the Ganados in the ruins again; you can still come back to them even later. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ End Chapter 4-3 Enemies Killed: Total: (Version 1.00 = ~680) ============================================================================== Chapter 4-4 ============================================================================== Up in the building, use the ladders and moving hands to try and milk every palooka in here you can. It is not necessary to milk everyone here because you couldn't hold that many grenades anyway. Just run back to the typewriter and save after every enemy killed/grenade gained, and retry from continue with every non-grenade drop, until you have a comfortable supply. Assuming you have harvested no boxes/barrels in the accessible areas, there are ~10 environmental possibilities as well, plus whatever you can get from the Ganados in the ruins. If you happen to jump from the Salazar machination's right hand before raising the bars over the lower doorway, go back down the entry elevator and up again (or typewriter save and retry) so that the hands reset themselves and you won't have to use a grenade to flip the switch back to the original position in order to move on. You may find yourself wanting to incendiary a couple of the archers in here, but if you keep trying you can get these guys knifed too with no damage, especially with constant saving. When the entire walkway is raised out of the water again, be sure everyone in here is killed, then go back for the Ganados in the ruins; these can all be lured individually and milked if necessary. Harvest all accessible areas to get a full case. point of no return #8 (major) (Grenade locations to come) Save inside the statue building, and move on past the point-of-no-return. During the statue chase, use the knife on the padlock. In the next building, run up the spiral walkway. Skip the barrel movie and run on up and go left onto the wooden walkway. Knife the two scythes as soon as possible, going for head slash/kick combos. Ascend the ladder, shake off the monk at the top, and work the switch to keep the barrels rolling in between knifing him (if you can kick him under the barrel-drop, drop a barrel on him for a quick kill). Keep working the lever until all possible are dead; go down for drops and to knife/suplex the lazy priest. Go back up and stand close to the elevator under the dynamite man, and aim high to kill him with a hand grenade. Gather any possible items (you can't come back down). point of no return #9 (tiny) (Grenade locations to come) Push the crates off the elevator and hit the button. There will be two archers, one on either side at differing heights as you go up. Incendiary or hand grenade these. (Try to hang on to incendiaries if you can, for upcoming Regenerators.) Anyone you kick off the elevator dies instantly, but it is far easier to just throw a hand grenade down with each group of 4. Grenade supply shouldn't be an issue, so lob away here. Save at the typewriter, equip the rocket launcher. point of no return #10 (tiny) (Grenade locations to come) Go on in. The infinite ground Plagas are not worth messing with. They drop bullets most of the time, and can jump on your face and eat into your healing items, so just racking up kills here is not interesting. Just back up as far as possible against the bars behind you, draw a bead on Salazar's pod with the RL scope, and wait. Respond to any button prompts that might come, and when the pod opens in a few seconds, fire. If you miss, retry. Gather items and move on. Get the golden egg from the snake, and 3 more grenades (incendiaries recommended again for upcoming Regenerators). Note: if you encounter the random-item glitch that puts a single non-changing item in the random spot, but changes the way it looks (i.e. money or bullets disguised with grenade "glamour"), then retry, typewriter save, and load the save game to get rid of the glitch. point of no return #11 (tiny) (Grenade locations to come) When you are ready to move on, go hop into Ada's boat for a ride to Disc 2. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ End Chapter 4-4 Enemies Killed: Total: ============================================================================== Chapter 5-1 ============================================================================== In the 1st sequence on the island, how you kill folks is up to your inventory. Enemies are most easily killed by batting them into the water as they jump over it, in the two places possible. Everyone can be killed this way except for JJ and the archer, who would just shoot you from the other side. While this is the easiest and quickest way to eliminate most of the enemies here, it has its drawback in that you cannot collect any drops if the enemies fall into the water. So you may want to use the 1st ladder in order to collect potential grenade drops. After killing the first 4 soldiers, draw out JJ, who can be knifed in 2 ways. One is at the window; stand aside so he doesn't fire, and as he climbs through, knife him, jump through the window, knife him on the ground 3 times, 180, jump back through the window, stand aside, repeat. This takes a while. The 2nd and quicker way is to climb the ladder, run forwards a step or two, 180, and wait for one of his pre-jump vocalizations. Bat him back before his feet touch the roof. Repeat. This is much quicker due to the damage inflicted with each fall. The only trouble here is that the Jump Down prompt can sometimes be a pain at this particular ladder, and you will need to jump down if his feet touch the roof. Also you have to "aim" JJ right or he ends up on the roof on his back, requiring you to jump down. After jumping down, wait again for one of his pre-jump vocalizations, then climb and repeat. Even with occasional mishaps, this is still much quicker and overall less work than using the window. After JJ, lure individuals for knife kills however you want, but keep an eye out for the appearance of the archer. When he comes out of that upper door, run underneath him out of range so that he will jump down and you can either suplex him quickly or lead him up the ladder like the rest. A helmeted shock-sticker will run to the archer's defense. Once past the reflected-laser door (new continue point), avoid the falling rock and run straight for the ladder beyond, keeping right so the unarmed soldier doesn't grab you. If you are quick enough the archer here won't tag you in the back. You can come back down later to kill these two guys individually, as they will both be further away from the ladder upon your return. Topside, there are sandbags, a window, and a chasm to exploit near the shock- stick soldier building. It is advisable to skip all enemies here until later. In all likelihood your case is full, so there is no point in killing anyone here if you can't pick up potential grenade drops. Continue on and avoid the rocket launcher blast by running behind the wall of boxes that defends the entrance to the upward tunnel. After the blast, quickly run back around the boxes and plunge forwards to the next continue point, between all the archers and dynamiters before they have much chance to react (some enemies may get killed unnoticed here, from dynamite and/or the rocket blast). Push the button to enter the doors ahead, then save at the typewriter and retry, to reset enemy positions so no one gives chase. Now equip a hand grenade, run onwards down the road to just in front of the box that sits midway to the new building, and lob 2 grenades at the archer before he has a chance to shoot; go back, save, and retry again so you can run into the next building with no interference. Inside, run past the gasmask man and oven man; stop briefly to see what oven man drops. In the next area, run past the first hammer man and enter the door to the right of him, continuing onward. In the room with the trick garage door, make the dynamite soldiers kill themselves; run in and to the right, and stand next to the drums in the archway where the shotgun shells are. From this position, run forwards and back up (repeatedly) until the door rises, then run for the door. Eventually you can get them to throw their dynamite and make the door close to bounce it back at them. After the dynamiters are gone there are archers (and a flailer if dynamite didn't get him). Stand in that same position and throw hand grenades when the door opens again; it takes at least 2. Try to get at least 1 kind of grenade out of all this (I'll say again: incendiary, incendiary, incendiary). Two gas-masked shock-stickers appear here upon leaving, so don't let them surprise you later. Save at the new typewriter, then go get the freezer key and run past the first Regenerator. Run out and fake past the 2nd Regenerator, go into the freezer and reprogram the key (don't pick up the infrared scope yet to make the 3rd Regenerator appear). Go out, fake past the 4th Regenerator to get into the flammables door. Do NOT use the grappling crane to pick up the soldiers and dump them in the trash; you can't get drops that way, and even if your case is full, you will want to discard a flash or even a hand grenade if an incendiary presents itself. Jump down the ladder to get their attention, then climb back up and go back into the control room. If the archer tries to shoot you through the windows, try to work the crane (you get a "too late for that" message) and then they will try to follow up the ladder. Run back and defend the ladder. You will have to go down for the last flailer. Go on through the security room and into the hall where Ashley is. Now or later, kill both hammer men. This is most easily accomplished with 3 incendiaries. While 1 incendiary is needed for a single hammer man (with additional knifing and kicking), it is unlikely that you can get the two guards synchronized enough to do any significant knife work. For incendiaries on hammer men, wait until they are in the process of standing up before throwing the next grenade, or it doesn't hurt them. If you are able to simultaneously slice both hammer guards 4 times while they are on the ground after each incendiary, you can get by with using only two incendiaries. Try to get a grenade in exchange for the twins here. In the next area (a split-level office where X-rays are displayed), lure each enemy individually, in a direction back up the entrance hallway, a good distance from the swinging door; if you fight too close to the door, you will alert others. Quick-save in the Ashley hall after each kill. In the laboratory beyond is your primary target: the Iron Maiden who carries the Storage Room Key. He can be killed with 6 incendiaries, but these are gold right now; you need 1 incendiary for each lone hammer man, and 4 and 1/2 incendiaries for each Regenerator (and we already have to go back for 2 more hammer men and 4 Regenerators). However, for Iron Maidens and Regenerators, 2 hand grenades equal 1 incendiary, and 1 explosive tank equals 1 hand grenade. So if you have this option with the Iron Maiden, put a hand grenade on the explosive tank (simultaneous damage from both equaling 1 incendiary), then throw 5 incendiaries, substituting in 2 more hand grenades for any 1 incendiary, if you have a surplus of the green ones in pairs (any odd hand grenade will be a waste on an Iron Maiden). Space your incendiary throws so they count: the enemy must show a reaction or he isn't getting hurt. Get the Storage Room key, then go get the incendiary out of the barrel at the communications tower. After getting the Storage Room Key, more enemies have appeared in the X-ray office. Use a flash to run by them. Go on to the Storage Room hall, and come back to lure them individually in the same manner as before, but do this later; keep them for now, for potential milking. When the time comes, you can lure everyone out except the last two archers, who you will have to fight together. Use a flash and try to get one kicked, knifed, and suplex-killed before the other recovers (kick onto the stairs and suplex onto lower stairs). The single one won't be such a threat by himself. Don't go into the storage room to meet Ashley until everyone on the island so far is dead, as meeting Ashley will trigger a point-of-no-return. Go for the 4 Regenerators next, and start pillaging the environment for incendiaries and hand grenades when you need them. There are precious few environmental options on the island so far: 1) incendiary (random box) on cliff face near beginning 2) incendiary in trash bin near oven man 3) hand grenade in kitchen sink near oven man 4) incendiary (random barrel) in basement alcove 5) incendiary in red wall box near freezer room 6) hand grenade on floor near grappling crane 7) flash in locker in security room 8) flash in X-ray office 9) incendiary in barrel near communications tower merchant That's it, so a great deal of your grenades will have to come from milking all the enemies you have bypassed. Whenever you get the goods to dispatch an enemy, go take care of it. Then go milk some more. For the two lone Regenerators in the original freezer key room and in the freezer (pick up the infrared scope) you have no choice but to use 4 incendiaries and 1 hand grenade on each one (total 10 grenades). For the two Regenerators in the same hall though, lure them towards each other, then when they are paired up, fake past them and use only 4 incendiaries on the both of them, near the explosive tank. After the Regenerators are gone, work on the two hammer men. For the lone hammer man above the basement (area between the kitchen and the garage-door area), put him down with a softening incendiary, then knife/kick him. The ideal situation is for him to be face down, head directly towards you. Knife the back of his bald head (find the distance that doesn't clang a shoulder guard), and keep aiming your knife at his head as he stands up, for an easy Kick prompt. The same can be done from other positions, but it is harder to judge distance when he stands, and you might end up clanging his armor and unable to connect with his head. If you have to be at his feet as he stands up and cannot connect with his head, knife his midriff and legs repeatedly, whatever position and angle that doesn't return a clang; this works best if he's facing away, so that it takes a long while for him to turn around. Move with him if he starts to inch out of reach, and quickly use a flash if necessary to kick him down a second time for more knifing. After killing lone hammer man #1, lure the archer out of the basement. Get him to come up the stairs (dance around the bars close to the original entrance, to get his attention), and stand behind the corner at the top of the stairs; his arrows won't connect, and you can then rush past him to do the knife/suplex on the stairs. Once the lower hammer man is by himself, run in and past him, counter-clockwise along the wall, until you are past the table where he doesn't chase. Reverse course and run past him again, faking past the flailer and the shield bearer who come down the stairs after you out of nowhere. You can hide again where you stood to dispatch the archer, knifing their legs for suplexes as they top the stairs, or leave the area in the direction of the nearest merchant. When you come back, the two new enemies will be in the monitor room, where you can come up behind them and try to lure them individually. Once they are taken care of, go for the lower hammer man, same way as the upper one. Once the hammer men and Regenerators are gone, you are still not done milking. Take a moment and think of what's coming up in the game. After retrieving Ashley from the storage room (with resulting appearance of multiple enemies in the hallway and in the security room) there is the no-return jump into the trash, for a pair of Iron Maidens that you must confront immediately due to the no-return drop-off into the wrecking ball room. The wrecking ball crowd can only be bypassed momentarily, and immediately afterwards is another pair of Regenerators, then the no-return of the bulldozer ride, and coming not long afterwards is U3/It. All of this occurs with little to no environmental grenades available; some serious milking is necessary if you plan on decimating the opposition instead of merely running by them all. Now more than ever, you need to get as close to a full case as possible before crossing the multiple back-to-back points of no return. Note: if you seem to hit a dry spell with grenade drops, just be persistent and they will come. Sometimes the game may become something different, more akin to a leisurely fishing or casino game but with violence. A hidden bonus, though, of any such tedious repetition will be the cultivation of consummate hand to hand skills. Wax on, wax off. Whacha! As always, if you only want to complete the game with the 4 shots, and do not necessarily want to kill every enemy possible, by all means sally forth. If this is the case, now you only need concentrate on getting/keeping enough grenades to aid you during the bulldozer ride, the U3 encounter, and the Saddler end game. On your milking quest, use this trick in the outer area with the archers and dynamiters: after saving at the typewriter (the 1st one on the island), run straight for the steps leading up to the dynamiter in the tunnel. You can get him to throw his dynamite so that it lands on the wooden walkway, killing him and igniting the explosive drum to soften the two archers there to one knife- swipe away from death. Settle for one grenade out of the trio. Everyone else outside can be lured individually. Stand underneath the other archer to get him (and another dynamiter) to come down for individual kills. Save the running soldier for last, as his running seems to be the only thing that gets that 3rd archer's attention, so that he may not jump down if the runner is no longer there. OK, so the only thing left on the island are chirruping crickets, and Ashley in lock-up. You have collected all possible items from the beginning of the island all the way to the trash-jumping point; for the purposes of this guide we will assume we have equal parts hand grenade, incendiary, flash, and healing items. Go into the storage room for Ashley. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ End Chapter 5-1 Enemies Killed: (Version 1.00 = 73) Total: (Version 1.00 = ~816) ============================================================================== Chapter 5-2 ============================================================================== Leave Ashley in the far recesses of the storage room, and go out to lure the archer in. His x-ray vision can be overcome by retreating to behind the storage room door, then going to stand in the bend inside as he rounds the corner towards the storage room. Attack him as you stand on the other side of the bend. As soon as you attack him the others will start strolling in, so you are standing here to create as large a walking distance between him and the others as possible. After killing him there will be a shock-stick, a flail and shield, and a hatchet, who can all be put down at once with a single hand grenade. One knife swipe could finish each, but chances are 2 will sprout Type III Plagas. If so, flash them and try to get the hoppers knifed before hammer man shows up. He will be the last to arrive, so kill him in the same manner as the lone ones before, or use an extra incendiary if the hoppers are thwarting you. If you are pleased with the battle outcome, save at the typewriter back past the x-ray office. Fill up holes in your case by collecting anything you haven't yet towards the communications tower. In the security room, throw a hand grenade towards the center of the room to put down everyone but the switch-tripper. Finish each with one knife swipe, and flash any Plagas. Knife the unarmed switch-tripping soldier, then go back for another save if you are again pleased. When you come back, push the button to open the door, letting 3 more enemies in. Skip the movie, immediately 180 and exit directly past the entering enemies, towards the trash area. Go out the swinging door but not too far; leave Ashley, then wait by the door and use it for an assist on the two who come after you. One will try to abduct Ashley and carry her back the other way, giving you some additional time to dispatch the other. Leave for quick-saves after killing each, until you are ready to typewriter save before jumping in the trash. Down below, close the 1st gate on the 1st Iron Maiden, leave the 2nd gate open and run to Push the makeshift bridge, then hide Ashley in the next dumpster. When the 1st Maiden gets close enough, show yourself to the 2nd one so that it starts walking, and lure them together. The two explosive drums are too far apart to use both (they will have regained all those hit points by the time they walk from one end of the room to the other), so just choose one barrel to lead them to. Same as before, 1 hand grenade on the barrel, then 5 incendiaries, or 4 incendiaries with 2 more hand grenades. Get the herb and move on. In the next hallway run past the hammer man and 2 others. Take a shock-stick to the chest, recover, and keep running, grabbing the herb on the way (there's nothing of use in the barrels). There's no sense trying to kill these guys here when they will be right behind you in the wrecking ball room, where hammer man can be kicked into the lava and the two easy ones can be milked later. Run to the control room immediately; you can be halfway there before Ashley says her line and the enemies appear. Once I even made it all the way to the lever and pulled it once before she jumped down and the enemies appeared. When the enemies appear, throw a flash, watch them, and wait. Have Ashley work the lever, and stay ready with flashes. Kick all the blinded hammer men possible into the lava, trying not to touch anyone else. Everyone except the hammer men should be saved for milking. This will take a maximum of 3 flashes. Exit immediately when the new door appears. In the next area, lead the 1st Regenerator into the 1st room (get the incendiary), so you can put him well behind you. Close the shutter behind you and run to the 2nd room, hit the switch, grab the herb, then wait for 2nd Regenerator to come in. Lead him deep into the room so you will have some additional seconds, then rush to the door where Ashley has to crawl under. Run on ahead and pick up the yellow herb, then kiss the typewriter before you attempt to do anything else. If you have enough grenades to kill the 2 Regenerators (pair them up) and have at least 1 of each kind left over, go ahead and kill them. If you are tapped out, you will have to fake past them to the milking area, killing them when you get the materials. Back in the wrecking ball room, some saved enemies will come from a door to your right. A group will run in when you enter, hopefully devoid of hammer men. Put them down with 1 hand grenade, and finish each with one knife swipe. Type I Plagas will likely sprout, so flash them. Simultaneously in the opposite corner of the room, enemies will be jumping down from above. If there is a hammer man among them, kick him into the lava after the Plaga flash. Retry until you get something for your troubles. Once these enemies are gone (any hammer men, and anyone from the right) the real milking can begin. Leave Ashley at the entrance, and run to where the enemies jump down. Knife legs as they land, the goal being an instant suplex kill for a grenade. Run away and save, repeat. Retry if you can't get a quick enough kill, or no grenade from a kill. It becomes exponentially easier with each killed enemy. Finally after the last initial enemy is killed, a lone hatchet thrower will appear and jump down. But you have to stay in the room to kill him after the last initial enemy; if you go out for a save, he won't appear again. After all those from that corner are gone, whoever you didn't kill from the hallway earlier are still back there (with a couple more). Call them with the wait/follow. If hammer man is still among them (you should be able to see him through the fence/wall) you will want to flash him and kick him into the lava with his kin. Leave and come back, call the others again (talking can lead them slowly and individually; entering the control room brings them all running at once), and do the same thing with these, knifing their legs as they jump down from the hallway. Same deal applies for this group; you will have to kill the last 2 without quick-saves in between. When you think you've killed them all but one--because only one comes running when you enter the control room--you can still call 1 more, but not if you leave after killing one of them. Finally the wrecking ball room will be empty and you will have a nice stock of grenades for the bulldozer ride. You should have 2 hangrenades and a few incendiaries (6 should be good). Get the FAS from the box before hopping onto the bulldozer; there's nothing else of use here. On the dozer, do a 180 and stall the oncoming jumpers with the knife, possibly killing one with a suplex. Back away into a front corner, and throw down an incendiary on the largest grouping possible, to instantly kill everyone when someone gets too close. Complete this cycle one more time, and suplex or kick any lone individuals. Be sure to heal yourself the moment you take a hit. Equip a hand grenade, and lob it at the oncoming truck. Continue defending the dozer in the same way (remember to re-equip incendiary). When the truck comes again, back away to a front corner and let the truck get stopped at the overhanging girder. At the midway point dispatch any enemies remaining on the dozer, hop off and climb the ladder to your right. At the top, immediately do a 180 and jump back down and onto the dozer again. Defend it again in the same manner. When nobody else shows up, get back down and go up the ladder to your left. 2 enemies will see you and come running; use the ladder for an assist, they won't try to get Ashley. Go back up the same ladder to rush the archer, then go after the flailer on the other side. The only thing of use in here is an herb. Flip the switch and climb aboard again. Same drill as before, but this time start out standing in a front corner. When "its coming right for you," wait for a visual. All enemies should be dead from the last incendiary. Throw your second hand grenade at the oncoming truck and its over. Now, you can either make out on grenade drops on this bulldozer ride, or you can get seriously ripped off. If you think you got gypped, don't overwrite your previous save, so that you can try again. If you made it through, you may just want to move on with a different save file. Get the hand grenade out of the cabinet, and go into the next room to say bye- bye to Ashley again. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ End Chapter 5-2 Enemies Killed: (Version 1.00 = 80) Total: (Version 1.00 = ~896) (Number of kills on the dozer ride will vary based on what number of chasing soldiers never catch up to you; some start running in the opposite direction if they get too far behind, and kicking anyone off adds to that problem.) ============================================================================== Chapter 5-3 ============================================================================== Your next use of grenades will be for the It/U3 sequence. You'll need a minimum of 3 hand grenades to hit buttons, and the monster itself will die with the equivalent of 11 incendiaries (grenade relationship is the same as for Regenerators). Milk accordingly on the way there. There are 10 possible enemies to milk in the boiler room, but take a moment to calculate exactly what you need for It, based on what you currently have, and the knowledge that you will also have: 1) random grenade off the shelf by the typewriter 2) random grenade from locker in tiny office in boiler room 3) permanent flash in boiler room closet (good for scaring It away in the switch maze) 4) permanent incendiary in the It suspended switch maze 5) permanent hand grenade in the It suspended switch maze 6) 2 explosive drums, each equaling 1/2 an incendiary. In the boiler room, lure everyone for individual kills. Use the doors for assists. Kill the 1st 7 enemies before moving on; if you are looking for a closer quick-save point and cross to the next area prematurely, the 1st 7 enemies will disappear to be replaced by the new set of 3. You have to keep running back the 50-60 steps to the first quick-save; so only milk for what you absolutely need for It. Get Krauser's cool knife, jump through some lasers, and save at the next typewriter. Pick up whatever herbs you pass. In the suspended maze, utilize your map so you know where you're going before you try to go there. Aside from grenading or knifing the necessary buttons, executing the maze is the same as in any other type of run. Knife the two buttons in the 1st section. Grab the herb when you pass it. In the second section, there are two buttons you need to grenade: if you only counted on getting the minimum of three hand grenades for buttons, you'll have to get each in one throw. No problem. Upon arriving in the 2nd section, DO NOT MOVE AN INCH. Stand right where you are, and look for the pulsating green light way back towards the right (ignore the pulsating light directly ahead). Aim as high as possible, straight at where the brightest green is reflected on a ceiling beam, and throw your grenade. Whether you happen to hit an overhead beam or not, whether the grenade bounces or not, the light should shatter and the door should rise. Now move to the right inside the entry doorway, and scrunch into the corner there as far back as you can get; looking to the left you can actually see the top part (yellow and square) of the other button. Again aim as high as possible and straight at it. Your grenade can hit an overhead beam--or not--and still shatter the button. If you don't hear the shatter and see the door go up, for either light, practice with whatever more hand grenades you have, then retry from the (ouch) very beginning. When successful, grab the incendiary to the right of the doorway in the 2nd section, and the hand grenade when you pass it. In the 3rd section the button is impossible to miss. When fighting It after the maze, use your previously calculated equivalent of 11 incendiaries (hand grenade or explosive drum each equaling 1/2 an incendiary). 7 will initiate the burrowing. During the burrowing, stand near the cliff and face the tunnel, as it seems there are far less dodge prompts here. After It's dead, ride back to the last typewriter for a save. Go up the new ladder and get the hand grenade out of the cabinet. If this is your only hand grenade, you will have to get an additional 1 more out of the next soldiers. Outside, jump down the ladder to lure 2 individuals up. The unarmed one will stand at the top of the ladder, but he will jump back down if you get too far away. Kill the shield bearer without going into the building, so that you can get the unarmed one right afterwards. If you let the unarmed one go back down, he will become a pain. After them, lure who you can up the ladder and to the door and shorter ladder inside, for milking your 1 grenade. There's one random grenade in this area, on the surface above the next typewriter; make it a hand grenade. You are looking to collect a total of 4 hand grenades for the flying gun-bots in the upcoming Krauser area. In the Krauser area, jump down and run into the 1st building. Slice at the closed door when you hear Krauser grunt outside, and hope to make him leave without taking damage. Go up and get the flash, then proceed to the next continue point. Run forwards to take cover behind the wall to the left, and again keep swinging the knife for him to run into it. Now run straight to the next building, underneath his fire (hug to the right if machinegun), and watch him jump down so you can meet him with more slashes. Get the FAS out of the barrel inside, go to the ladder and wait. When the bots arrive, throw a grenade at one through the window, then climb the ladder immediately. Look down the hole and throw another grenade when you see the other bot coming up after you. Collect your 4th hand grenade from the roof. Go up the stairs and hide underneath the ledge as Krauser chucks grenades or fires, then rush to slash him when he jumps down. Push the statue to leave, then prepare to meet him downstairs again as you pass the previous FAS/grenade building. Slash him as he tries to surprise you at the corner. Open the gate and jump down. Lure the two sand-crawler bots to the ladder, where you can climb in safety as they blow up. Use your 3rd hand grenade to take out a flying gun-bot along with 2 more crawlers, then lure the next 2 crawlers to the ladder again. Back up towards them, and then run away when you hear the beeping (1-2-3-boom). Pause to let it catch up, run again, and try to get it all the way back to the ladder. After talking to Krauser, quickly 180 and run away when the last crawler and gun-bot appear. Go get the gun bot from around the other way (it will come up behind you or lie in wait in an archway), then lure the crawler for an explosion. Heal yourself if you don't make it, and move on to the tower. Pick up the last puzzle piece for the big showdown; stay close to him and keep swinging the knife downwards for a quick end (downwards interrupts both his high and low kicks). Just retry at any point during this whole encounter, if he keeps getting lucky, or if you are off your game. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ End Chapter 5-3 Enemies Killed: (Version 1.00 = 31) Total: (Version 1.00 = ~927) ============================================================================== Chapter 5-4 ============================================================================== In the next area, run ahead until the gunner starts shooting, and take cover. Sit tight and wait for Mike to do his stuff. When Mike's done his first good deed for the day, do not take the left path. Go either into that little roofless bunker where the archer was, or inch down the steps just enough to trigger the movie of oncoming shield enemies. Immediately 180 and run directly out for a quick-save (or typewriter save and retry). This simple action brings you infinite enemies. When you reload the area, you will have individual shock-stick soldiers, who come from the left, until you kill 4. After the 4th one they stop coming, but you can quick-save again (or save and retry), to bring 4 more, ad infinitum. Do not run to meet them, just kill them at the crossroads; going very far down that way will trigger more enemies. You may fill your case with grenades and rack up your kill count as high as you want. The moment you go too far down the steps, or down towards their origin, this bounty is over. However it is possible to trigger another set of infinite ones. When you get tired of the shock-stickers, kill a complete set of 4, then run up the path where they came from, to trigger a hoard of enemies up that way. Run straight to the ladder, wait for the rocket launcher man to aim at you, then climb the ladder. If you waited long enough he will fire before you complete the climb, during your invulnerability. He'll take out a large chunk of the opposition for you. Now stay up there and let dropping dynamiters light up, and elbow them to keep taking out more. Lob hand grenades at the far tower where an archer is shooting at you, and heal yourself as needed. Do NOT jump down onto the metal bridge, or you won't be able to get the next set of infinite enemies. Finally this corner will be clear and you can claim it as your own. This will trigger the new infinite batch. Now every time you go down those steps, a face-painted shock-sticker will come up behind you out of nowhere, and a hatchet thrower will come out of the original archer's bunker. Fake past the new shock-sticker to kill them both at the ladder you just claimed. When you go down the steps again, a second face-painted shock- sticker will appear, but not a second hatchet-thrower. These 3 seem to be infinite, just like the earlier 4 shock-stickers, as long as you don't go past the padlocked fence (or jump onto the metal bridge) to trigger the new gunner. Skipping ahead, think about what grenades you need in order to slaughter the remaining opposition throughout the rest of the game: 1) 6 incendiaries for a very strong Regenerator 2) 1 flash and 3 incendiaries for a pair of hammer men 3) 16 hand grenades for Saddler Saddler goes down with 22 climbing eye-stabs (Ada throws down the RL after 11). Hand grenades are what you need for him; incendiaries are only good for igniting the 2 explosive drums, and there are 2 permanent ones near the very end. Using those 2 incendiaries on the barrels at endgame, along with the two payload levers, give you 4 stabs. A knee-eye slash to the facing left knee at first contact is also a gimme, for 5, and a hand grenade is on-site for 6. So along with your 2 lastly-appearing incendiaries, you will need to carry in 16 hand grenades. 5 random ones and 2 permanent ones occur between the war zone and the end, so if you enter the war zone (start of 5-4) with zero, you will need to collect 9 from enemies (9 + 7 = 16), as well as the 9 incendiaries listed in 1) and 2) above. A very simple task, provided that you set out to do so. (Note: add in a few more hand grenades, for use on any of those pesky archers within the war zone.) Now back to the war zone. When you're finally tired of infinite enemies, and you are prepared for what's to come, go on and trigger the 2nd gunner and head for the ladder back behind his tower (fake past the 2 shields who lie in wait). Defend the top of the ladder until no one else comes, then go up top to knife the gunner, free from any incoming arrows. Go back down and open the door to trigger JJ and the new enemies. Let the new enemies come for you, then lead them away from JJ's fire and kill them. The ladder you claimed near the beginning is a good place, as they don't go in the other direction. You may have to look around for an archer and lob a grenade at the pest. Once these are dealt with, go back for JJ, leading him down into the pit with the tents. You may have to kill an archer down here if he didn't get killed earlier. Once JJ is in the pit, knife him as he tries to come off the top of the ladder. Press the button to open the door, then wait for a shield-bearer from the new area, to also kill in the pit. Enter the new area and go left. Defend the ladder inside, baiting who you can. When no one else comes, wait for a gap in the shooting to run around to the first topside gunner. Duck into the shack, and intermittently knife him during gaps in the shooting, ducking back into safety during the shooting. Once this one's dead, go back down and run across to the ladder towards the 2nd topside gun. Go up and kill the flalier hiding behind the shack, then go inside the shack and let the gunners kill an enemy or two. Knife anyone who comes inside the shack, then kill this gunner same as before. Finally go after the gunner on the ground. When the gunners are dead, kill anyone else here, then hit the buttons to open the shutters. Don't move on though. Go back out to the original area to trigger some new enemies from the gunner area. Finally when no one else comes, move on. You can come back to these areas later (until you meet Ashley again), so you may want to wait to harvest anything. Get a random grenade at the bottom of the 1st ladder in the triple- gunner area, and a random grenade immediately outside the entrance. The permanent hand grenades are in the original archer's bunker, and up where JJ started out. The one flash you will need for the upcoming hammer men can be gotten near the end. If you have space, retry Mike's mass kill for a grenade drop or two. Go on to the next typewriter. The Regenerator in here has the stamina of an Iron Maiden, so it takes the equivalent of 6 incendiaries. In this version of the game, it physically cannot be knifed to death. In the next area, lure individuals up the entryway for single kills, saving after each (run deeper past the 1st archer each time to lure the next enemy). When JJ comes out, that means it's safe to tackle the archers. Leave, go back in, and take them one by one (the 2nd one overshoots you as you knife the legs of the 1st one for a suplex). After they're gone, go right to the extremely tall ladder. This ladder is your bestest friend from now on in this area; always enter by it. JJ and a hatchet thrower will jump down; when they jump, go up and wait. Kill this last JJ the same way as the very 1st one, knocking him out of the park with each jump up. JJ will probably kill the hatchet-thrower for you, if for some reason he starts shooting. After these, go in and lure everyone individually, the tall ladder always being your entry point. Do not investigate any buttons until everyone is dead. Finally, bring the new enemies and lead them to the tall ladder for your kills. Kill all, get the key and use it. Push the buttons to open the new door, then go in and lead 2 shield bearers to the tall ladder. Harvest 3 random grenades in this area, and everything possible in a backwards direction, before you see Ashley. In the next hallway, ease forwards to show yourself to a hammer man, then retreat, and after he rounds the bend, flash him, and only him. When the others come close, throw your 3 incendiaries for the double hammer men, probably taking out the others as well. Go remove your Plaga eggs. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ End Chapter 5-4 Enemies Killed: (Version 1.00 = 100+) Total: (Version 1.00 = 1000+) (Due to the infinite enemies in the war zone, your kill counts for this chapter will be well over 100, and for the game, well over 1000.) ============================================================================== Final Chapter ============================================================================== Now all's that's left is Saddler. Get whatever else you could possibly want before going down from the last typewriter. Be sure you have 2 incendiaries and 16 hand grenades before going to meet him. Deliver 22 climbing eye-stabs: 1) Slash his facing left leg-eye at 1st contact 2) Incendiary the 1st drum 3) Payload lever #1 4) Incendiary the drum on the other side 5) Payload lever on the other side (pick up you 17th hand grenade on your way to it) 6-11) Your 1st 6 hand grenades Ada will now throw down the special rocket launcher. Thanks Ada, appreciate the help, but we're fine. 12-22) Your remaining 11 hand grenades Ride your jet-ski to the end. Yahoo! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Now try the Be Kind to Ganados game variant. Use the same item management techniques as described above, for procurement of flash grenades mainly, with other grenades only for the enemies that must be killed in order to progress. Kill the absolute least number of enemies possible. Have fun! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ============================================================================== Appendix: Un-knife-able stuff. The short list. ============================================================================== These are all the out-of-reach things that must be hit in any "knife" run, listed in order of appearance. Some things are not listed here because it should be possible to get past the area by healing repeatedly (sometimes ridiculously repeatedly) and not necessarily hitting anything from a distance. Super-hardcore knife enthusiasts who are not interested in maximizing kills would be using the un-upgraded handgun to hit only these things (all are grenade-able except for the two indicated): 1) Chapter 2-1: 3 boxes at falls 2) Chapter 2-3: truck driver before castle 3) Chapter 3-1: Any monk abducting Ashley in the piggyback crank sequence (but no other monks, only the ones that pick her up, and only to make them drop her!) 4) Chapter 3-3: Wine bottle painting 5) Chapter 3-4: 3 restraints holding Ashley, and all enemies below until all are dead 6) Chapter 4-1: 3rd flame-dragon rider 7) Chapter 4-1: Queen's Grail drill machine monks 8) Chapter 4-1: Drawbridge chains 9) Chapter 4-1: 3 blocks jamming clock tower gears 10) Chapter 4-3: Descending ceiling at mine carts (3 lights only). Not grenade-able. 11) Chapter 4-3: 2 switches at mine carts 12) Chapter 4-4: Salazar. Not grenade-able. 13) Chapter 5-1: Storage Room Key Iron Maiden (not out-of-reach but not knife-able in GCN NTSC version) 14) Chapter 5-2: 2 trucks on bulldozer ride 15) Chapter 5-3: 3 switches in the "It" suspended maze Note that while all these things are easy to hit with a bullet, using only the knife and healing items to get past everything else in the game can be excruciatingly difficult (gondolas, raising the cannon, the other enemies in the crank sequence, Armaduras, mine carts, soldiers in bulldozer ride, all bosses, etc.). Completely opposite to the run described in this guide, stockpiling of health items is pretty much required. Personally I wouldn't go out onto the lake until I procured over 50 golden eggs, keeping a very few slots open for yellow herb use and for later bullet collection for number 5) above; I'd worry about bullet collection for Salazar only after securing the King's grail. When full of eggs (no health sprays or green herbs; red herbs are OK to collect for later use), random green herbs will appear insanely often so that you never have to dip into your egg stockpile except when trapped in the problem areas. Some areas even become less of a problem if herb-less, due to the herbs dropped (cabin fight, bulldozer ride). After the first El Gigante, replenish golden eggs with swamp snakes (don't kill any beforehand). After Mendez, horde every little herb possible, and always use up herbs before using an egg. That's all, folks! FAQ Version Changes ------------------- 1.00 April 23, 2006 ----------------------- Original and complete run through 1.25 May 5, 2006 ----------------------- Minor grammatical and text changes; added in the death of Pueblo Salazars for a much easier Pueblo sequence. In version 1.00 I had said all available enemies would be killed, yet (Doh!) I didn't draw out the Doctors. Oversight on my part due to changing goals after run already started. Version 1.00 used no grenades in Pueblo, knifing all Ganados and killing no Salazars (no early grenade harvest). 1.26 May 10, 2006 ----------------------- Minor text changes and a couple of minor content corrections. Honed in closer to the mechanism behind random-spot deactivation; expanded discussion of item management immediately prior to first point-of-no-return. Abandoned former Chapter 1-2 (1-3) Pueblo strategy as not reproducible. Added in Chapter breaks, kill tallies, and grenade locations through end of Chapter One; Chapter breaks through end of Chapter Two. 1.30 May 15, 2006 ----------------------- Minor text changes through end of Chapter Two. Honed in closer to the mechanism behind randomness of random pick-ups; expanded discussion of item management immediately prior to second and third points-of-no-return. Added the electric light idea for nighttime farm Ganados (unconfirmed). Maximized cabin fight kills. Figured out the trick to consistently grenading the last gondola Ganado. Added in grenade locations and kill tallies through end of Chapter Two. Added an idea for a game variant at the end, for even more fun and a whole new challenge. 1.31 May 25, 2006 ----------------------- Minor text changes throughout, corrected some previously overlooked typos. Added in Chapter breaks through to the very end. Added kill tallies and grenade locations through end of Chapter 3-1 (version changes now reflect at what point I am in revisiting the game). Added strategies for kicking/knifing all 3-2 sewer Novistadors. Added deaths of the 1st two rocket launcher monks in 3-2 gallery (previously assumed it was the same pair firing each time from behind the painting). Added appendix outlining all the out-of-reach things that must be hit in any "knife" run, including tips for the more typically attempted sort of run. Added Table of Contents. 1.41 May 29, 2006 ----------------------- Minor text changes through end of Chapter 4-1. Added kill tallies and grenade locations through end of Chapter 4-1. Added alternative El Gigante strategy from The n00b Avenger. Upcoming -------- More typical kill tallies, more grenade locations, etc. All trademarks and copyrights contained in this document are owned by their respective trademark and copyright holders. This work may not be reproduced under any circumstances except for personal, private use. It may not be placed on any web site or otherwise distributed publicly without advance written permission. Use of this guide on any other web site or as a part of any public display is strictly prohibited, and a violation of copyright.